Are Many Haye Fans Underestimating Wlad??

This. Both have strengths, both have weaknesses. Who can exploit them? Is Haye fast enough to get past that jab and is he powerful enough anyway? Is Wlad canny enough to surprise Haye? Can he peg Haye back with the jab?

The beauty of this fight, and why we're all so interested, is that we simply don't know. One mistake, one chance taken and the job's done. Speculate away, by all means, but let's not pretend that we know for sure.

PS... heart says Haye KO, head thinks Wlad KO.

 

On the contrary, a TON of people even in the Brit forum are underrating David Haye and his chances.

The wider boxing community even more so.

 

No.

 

This is an insanely good post :deal

 

That is not good finishing ability. Watch more boxing.

 

Sad thing is, only one of these guys has genuine one punch K.O power....and he rarely throws that punch atsch

 

Thanks mate

 

I'm not underrating Wladimir Kiltschko.

He's been knocked down 8-11 times..? But he's got up 8-11 times. I think it will take more than one shot to stopped Wladimir Kiltschko, i think Wladimir Kiltschko's chin is on par with Audley Harrison's. People forget that Audley Harrison, made the affects of David Haye's power even worse, by freezing up and taking a dozen of "The HAYMAKERS" bombs. Someone of Wladimir Kiltscko's mentality, and championship exeprience and confidents.

"When he is hit with a Haymaker"

He won't just freeze up, and take bombs like Audley Harrison did.

He will..

"Grab and wrestle, he step out of range with his athletism, and throw atleast a jab, i honestly beleave he will meet fire with fire"

As a heavyweight he has faced and the beat better heavyweights, than David Haye beaten.

"FACT"

But there is one problem. David Haye is the most gifted athlete physically, Wladimir Kiltschko has EVER been inside the ring with. Wladimir Kiltscko has never faced any fighter in his career, in my opinion that was in good condition. He's faced allot of talented fighters in terms of skill to a certain degree, but lets face it. They have all been fat, like Samuel Peter. Or they have just in general been **** athlete's and abit fat like "Eddie Chambers". The only reason why guys like Eddie Chambers are in the sport of boxing is because, they couldn't make it on the NFL feild, or basketball court.

Boxing has lacked athlete's for years, its been dominated by average joe's with no real athletic talents.

And YES Wladimir Kiltschko faced and beat Chris Bryd. But yet again, he was a talented fighter, and the closest to what i would call a athlete. But yet again, he lived and trained like a complete ******.

David Haye is the first fighter who has great technically ability, aswell as physical ability. Who lives and trains like a skitzo, 365 days a year. He's always in shape, he's always ready to rumble. He has the most complete and immense training regime of the past 25years in boxing. From a psychological view point, Adam Booth and David Haye, are the ultimate cold hearted realists. They train for the worst, they train and prepare for the worst things that can happened to them inside of the ring. With David Haye's phyical talents and mental approach, aswell as the most meticulousness training regime in the world of sport.

"These other guys don't really stand a chance"

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From a very young age, David Haye has been playing a game.

"What David Haye says, David Haye do's"

Its like Simon says.............................."But alittle more ****ing violent"

He was playing it in Nursey, playing it in primary school, and on July the 2nd.

"He's playing again"

He's like one of them toddlers, you just can't stop! destroying others kids playtime, and now he's about to destroy Wladimir Kiltscko's play time.

 

Same. Can't see him having anyone other than Haye to have a defining fight against (or at least having a real high quality win over an ATG Heavy) and, whilst it would be nice to see him fully-rounded here, Haye doesn't really give him the canvas to paint his masterpiece.

This one'll be more like a Jackson Pollock.

 

Most people are actually over estimating Wlad and at the sametime under estimating Haye.

 

I must admit, i am struggling to find a way Haye win's this fight tbh'.

Most people are talking saying "when Haye lands on Wlad's chin", but what if Wladimir land's first? We all know Haye to be slightly chinny, plus Wladimir hit's like a car crash, i just don't understand how Haye fan's haven't thought about this.

As soon as Haye get's up close, Wlad is just gonna' tie him up, lean on him a bit and it'll get broke up. Haye will try get up close again, and exactly the same will happen again. Finally Haye will realise what's going on then maybe try to box Wlad?

As DFTaylor said, this has all the direction is being an absolute stinker. Once Haye realises he can't get up close to Wlad because all he does is end up wrestling with him, he'll have to come up with a whole new plan as i really do think he's putting all his egg's in one basket with that plan.

I just can't see anything other than a Wlad KO, about round 7