Are Modern Nutrition and Scientifically created Work Out Regimes Overrated?

The problem is we'll never know how the old greats would fare against modern fighters with so-called advanced conditioning.
I'm not for a minute disagreeing,but in other sports the general concensus is that athletes are much much fitter nowadays.

 

Look at heavyweights now, they gas-out in six rounds.

 

I think this has more to do with fighting styles then training regimen. Khan and Pacquiao styles employs constant foot movement and punching.

While Mayweathers style is more about defense and counterpunching.

Another good example of this would be De La Hoya and Hopkins. De La Hoya is more old school with his training. Yet that didn't prevent him from fading in his fights. While Hopkins has taken a more Scientific Approach with his training. And in his mid 40s he seems to have more energy in fights than guys like Pavlik and Pascal.

Again I think this is more because of their styles than their training. Oscar was more agressive and Hopkins more conservative.

And of course I have to bring up George Foreman. He was more agressive when he was younger and his biggest issues was him tiring late in fights. Then when he came back older. Tiring was no longer an issue.

 

One more note about cutting-edge strength, stamina 'n hand-speed improvements:

Great ol' school trainers -- still active today -- have confided, they humor fighters insistent on doing it, believing they'll be at a disadvantage. Plus, most fighters are young guys 'n love seeing muscles 'n cuts in the mirror. If it increases their confidence, trainers go with the flow.

Greb 'n Armstrong, with injuries, all-night drunks 'n rubbish for food, burned opponents down, increasing pressure 'n punch barrages as fights went.

Either you're a gladiator, or you ain't.

 

Floyd has a nutritionist working with him, but he's top secret, like sparring footage (no cameras!). Floyd loves Mountain Dew and McDonald's.

 

ya he eats a lot of organic food when in training

 

if you're looking for athleticism, boxing is not the benchmark of performance.

Look at olympic records and tell me they haven't improved.

Someone posted a study where bout length and round duration were measured against VO2max levels and peak/avg intensity and it showed some pretty interesting results. So the regulations regarding the rounds per bout have also changed the game as well.

 

I'm thinking similar. It's hard to use Mayweather for this comparison. He is great at being relaxed and economical wheres as Amir is a wacky stiff. Maybe if there was someone that used old school conditioning methods and fought with the same wild **** Amir does.

 

Disagree completely. I'm not even going to add a counter argument. I will add a couple of questions though.

Have you ever fought?
Have you ever fought on a bad diet?
Have you ever fought on a good diet?

 

Short of being nauseous, AW, diet means zilch. Either ya cometa fight orya don't. I've trained with ATG's who lived on booze, chased tail all night 'n would take a fighter's heart the next day 'n get blind drunk afterward

Real fighters fight, period.

 

Joe Calzaghe had legendary stamina & he never lifted a weight in his life, he was an old school trainer

Roy Jones & Mike Tyson were both old school & got worse after adopting modern methods

 

I've trained with, and trained boxers who are the same. They can eat what they want, they can drink what they want...yet they still produce the goods in training and in the ring. But they are the minority, they are the lucky ones.

Diet is extremely important, it can add an extra dimension to an average boxer.

I've trained both under a very bad diet, and under a healthy diet...and there is a massive difference. I know more about the body now whilst training, and how much a diet can effect training than I did when I was eating badly.

Like I said, some people are lucky, they are born to fight, they are born to be in the ring, healthy diet or not. But the majority of peoples bodies don't work like that. They need the carbs to train, they need the protein to recover, etc. Not only does a healthy diet help physically, but it also helps mentally. The brain needs feeding afterall :conf

 

We're in agreement, AW. The guys I singled out are the exception to the rule.

 

Not sure about Tyson but for Jones it isnt that black and white- he adopted it for the Ruiz fight and he did well did he not?

 

Always good to converse, John. :good