Are people being overly harsh on Canelo since his loss to Bivol?

When you look for your limits it is unavoidable that you will find them. Had canelo won this fight he would be challenging beterbiev, and had he won to beterbiev he would have gone up to CW, and so on. Losing when you have started in 154 and you keep doing that is unavoidable.

I promise you will never watch gg losing to bivol. I can promise you. Same with beterbiev or bivol, I promise that you will never see them losing to a HW.

Canelo losing was unavoidable. Even mayweather pulled the brake when he saw that it was nonsense to go up to MW being 40 yo. Canelo was looking for more and more and more... a defeat would happen for sure, sooner or later, because you cant go from 154 up to HW fighting undefeated champions, it's pure common sense.

So called boxing fans (they are just nuthuggers with male crushes) critizice it. Ok, good for them, but what canelo did (or usyk did) is what I want figthers to do, and if they lose they lose. I dont like cowards, and a coward is not only this guy who is afraid to go into the ring because he's going to get a beating, a coward is every freaking scumbag who doesnt dare because he's afraid of failure. And there are tons of them, in boxing and outside boxing, and some of them claiming that they are willing to die fighting while they spend 20 years in the same division doing nothing.

 

Boxing fans are notoriously fickle, tribal, and emotional.

Though I never regarded Canelo as a generational talent, I always respected his ability and seeming reverence for the history of the sport.

He moved up, challenged a technically proficient champion who performed superbly in the most unforgiving of crucibles, and came up short.

It happens.

Nevertheless, should Canelo return to 168lbs, I favor him over either Benavidez or Charlo, his presumed stiffest completion at that weight.

 

IDGAF about GGG

 

They are..................there's absolutely no shame in losing to who he lost to.

 

I've have not seen anyone here, or anywhere else for the matter, ever mention that Bivol was not the toughest challenge out there for Canelo(other than Usyk and possibly Beterbiev).

 

No he did not "clearly lose to GGG twice", stop the BS. You want to see what a clear loss is, look at Bivol /Canelo.

Both Canelo/GGG fights were close.

 

Yes but I think at least in Canelos mind Beterbiev would have been tougher. Bivol may have looked beatable to Canelo. But yes agree 2nd toughest.

 

There was a quote a member made here yesterday by @covetousjuice and this echo's my thoughts on Canelo and Bivol.

And after seeing the judges scorecards i think this comment is pretty spot on.

 

Canelo is in a place where he rubs a lot of guys the wrong way, a lot of the old Mayweather crowd hate on Canelo to prop up Floyd which is weird since Canelo might be Floyd’s best win so you’d think they’d praise him more.

the GGG stans who bought into him being some Superman who was banking on a then jr mw moving up to fight him even tho he refused to move up himself only for him to get a draw and lose and pretty much waste his career defining chance.

Realistically Canelo is the best Active fighter and we need more guys like him, nobody thought he could do half the stuff he’s done since moving up from 154 years ago yet here we are years later calling him a hype job because he lost to the best or 2nd best guy at 175. That in itself is remarkable

 

Alvarez is good champion world class fighter but never the super fighter they hype him. It is fair criticism!
Unified at a mediocre 168 division. Good achievement but not amazing greatness.
At middleweight he has weak record .. Deserved loss or even 2 loss with Golovkin.

 

No better sight than seeing Canelo take a quick ten punch unanswered combination to the face.

 

Nope, ClemNelo is getting what he deserves in Eating the MEAT

 

Hagler fought in the same weight class his whole career.

 

No. They manufactured him like some God. He had all the chips in his favor in boxing, so he began cherry picking who he fought was a easy enough match up for a strap. He saw Bivol's last x2 performances and thought, yep i can take this guy. Backfired. Got his ass handed to him. He literally boxed as if he could just walk through this Russian bear with single shot power punches (which has no effect on Bivol). His team must have thought Bivol was BJS, Smith or Plant. He simply got what he deserved.