Are people on here now ready to give B-Hop the respect he deserves?? A - T - G.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by DINAMITA, Oct 19, 2008.


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  1. DINAMITA

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    That's a very bold statement on Pavlik v Calzaghe! I thought of that fight as a 50/50 before last night, but now I have to say Calzaghe would beat Kelly. Pavlik just didn't look like he was comfortable fighting at 170lbs, and there's no way Calzaghe will make 160lbs, therefore I cannot see it happening. Pavlik can physically weigh 170lbs on fight night no problem, but just like Morales couldn't handle 135 v Raheem and Hatton couldn't handle 147 v Collazo, Pavlik couldn't handle 170. Calzaghe handled Kessler brilliantly, and I think Kessler as a natural 168lbs fighter was a lot stronger than Kelly would be at 170. I can't see anything but a Calzaghe UD, maybe not as wide as last night but still a clear win.

    But anyway, this thread is about B-Hop...

    he is an A-T-G! :happy :happy :happy
     
    DINAMITA, Oct 19, 2008
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  2. PACZ

    PACZ Czarnina-Sippin []ing Fan Full Member

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    Glad I Got His Autograph!
     
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  3. maracho

    maracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Most respect him and want to love him but his words and actions turn many fans off.
     
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  4. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    Hopkins has been an ATG for a while, this was a massive achievement though. I had Calzaghe edging Hopkins 114-113, so he's still my #3 P4P with Hopkins at #4.

    No disrespect to Calzaghe because he is a wonderful fighter, but I hope every day that he will lose to Jones and the rematch 16 years in the making will at last come.
     
    the cobra, Oct 19, 2008
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  5. Jack Presscot

    Jack Presscot Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Calzaghe OWNS Hopkins in the Ring, and on any lists, for All Time. Get used to it.
     
    Jack Presscot, Oct 19, 2008
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  6. power play

    power play Member Full Member

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    hopkins all ready has repect, calzaghe should get more now. he goes in with jones now ,both have beatern hopkinks
     
    power play, Oct 19, 2008
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  7. elgrancampeon

    elgrancampeon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    As did many, many people. Cal landed 1 solid punch the entire freaking fight dude.
     
    elgrancampeon, Oct 19, 2008
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  8. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    pleased you can give hopkins props but calzaghe's win over hopkins was opportunistic and you know it.

    i'm going to keep saying it until you listen...

    beat a proven world class fighter IN HIS PRIME.
     
    BADINTENTIONS2, Oct 19, 2008
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  9. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    want to vote on that one?
     
    BADINTENTIONS2, Oct 19, 2008
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  10. DINAMITA

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    The Ring did a Top 80 Fighters of the Past 80 Years a while back. Next time they do a list like that, I GUARANTEE you that Hopkins will be higher on it than Calzaghe. And I will make any wager you like on that.

    Calzaghe may have sneaked a controversial decision v B-Hop, but when you look at their overall careers, resumes, achievements and performances, there is only one answer...

    Former world pound-for-pound number 1 Bernard Hopkins.

    Get used to that, because that will be the case forever. :good
     
    DINAMITA, Oct 19, 2008
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  11. DINAMITA

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    What a ****ing Zen Master he is inside that ring though. :smoke
     
    DINAMITA, Oct 19, 2008
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  12. smiffy

    smiffy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    so true, ****in brilliant.
     
    smiffy, Oct 19, 2008
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  13. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    I think you may be interested in my 2nd post in this thread, back on page one.
     
    DINAMITA, Oct 19, 2008
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  14. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I always maintained that he was a very good fighter and certainly not shot the way people were making out...

    Hopkins deserves huge credit for this, excellent win indeed, he truely is an ATG, a legend.

    However, I do warn you PACFAN, to expect the win to be attacked a few weeks from now on the grounds that Pavlik was fighting out of his natural weight class or some nonsense along those lines!
     
    Beatboxer, Oct 19, 2008
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  15. DINAMITA

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    It will indeed, as is the nature of boxing fans, even though Pavlik beat Jermain Taylor at only 4lbs lighter.

    However, for me and I hope for all sane fans, this win falls into the same category as Mayweather v Corrales, Pacquiao v Barrera I, Morales v Pacquiao I, Hopkins v Trinidad, Jones v Ruiz, Calzaghe v Kessler, Mosley v De La Hoya I...

    ...a 21st century masterclass that is beyond reproach. Two quality fighters, one clear and convincing winner.
     
    DINAMITA, Oct 19, 2008
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