Valero was a BIG puncher who had good technique when delivering some of those punches....but I tend to believe he was naturally a heavy handed person before wrapping up that special gift with good technique, speed and explosiveness. I think Ed was like E. Charles and could have gotten to that level of notoriety (regarding his power) had he not gone off the deep end.
Does this question not depend on some other variables, like commitment to the punch. Some fighters pull their punches with an emphasis on defense while others places a premium on punching through their opponent. Someone mentioned how Mayweather throws one punch at a time, that is a factor too, unless we are talking about one punch KO power. If we are talking about one punch KO power that would also depend on the opponent. The opponents punch resistance at the time of the fight is also a factor. There would need to be a standard way to measure punching power. I think the answer is some where in between. Born with ability with refining technique.
...because they KGTFO with one punch, U...Just like they did in the street before ever walking into a gym.
Sure, certain countries are great at certain sports because they have a great selection system, great trainers, great training systems etc. But you are saying Jamaican sprinters are better than presumably white British sprinters because the Jamaican sprinting school is so much better than the British one. It might be. But if you were right, there would be more white British sprinters than black British sprinters competing for Britain, since the white British sprinters don't have a worse schooling than their black colleagues, and since there are many more white people than black people taking part in athletics to start off with. But this is wrong. Same goes for American athletes. Why don't the whites make the grade in American trials? Because their trainers didn't train them as well as they trained their black peers? No. Because they don't have what it takes naturally. They weren't born with the same physical talent. Great sprinters are born, not made. Same with great punchers.
The reason why fighter's, (who are real punchers) "lose power" when they move up isn't because they actually lost power.....it's because they are punching men who are naturally a lot bigger, more dense and the power isn't as devastating on naturally bigger men. But I heard that Edwin hit like a middle weight. .....even if that's true it wouldn't mean he could knock out a real heavy weight if he some how managed to pack on the pounds. That's plain physics. But what's even more silly is thinking real heavy handed fighter's don't exist when there's tangible proof that's threaded throughout the history of this sport.
:happy Great post! They're would have to be more than just circumstantial evidence to support said fighter being a puncher. Fighters fight differently against different fighters, styles, weight draining. We suspect Ward is not a puncher be he got a tko against Dawson.
Good post. A misconception I've seen in a few posts, Force = mass x Acceleration. Force is Not mass x velocity. Thus Pacquiao's training regime on explosive speed. Change in speed affects force directly. No doubt certain body structures lend themselves to more punching power, but training has a big effect on how your body develops as well. It's not something that can be trained in a few months or even a few years. But take a kid from an early age and have him lift heavy objects and live an active life as opposed to someone who lives a sedentary life and by the time they're in their twenties, who do you think will have more power. It may be faster to acquire for some people over others but power is always being improved by training until old age kicks in.
I have been around boxing longer than most of the poster here have been alive . . . PUNCHERS are BORN! You cannot learn power, you can slightly increase your KO% by throwing a punch properly and at angles where your opponent cannot see, but you cannot train someone to hit as hard as a foreman . . . either you can or you cannot
:good People don't become professional fighters because they cannot naturally punch hard, or because they don't naturally have fast hands, or because they don't naturally have great footwork or great balance. No one keeps dedicating many years of their life to something when they have little to work with in the first place.
No, i'm sure Malignaggi tries to hurt people and trained in order to knock them unconscious, he just can't (from a certain level) he can score stoppages by accumulation but that's it.
thumbsup JASPER'S tellin' the God's honest truth, PERIOD!...as bitter a pill as it may be for those who wanna believe gurus, hard work 'n science will make the difference.