Are punchers like Julian Jackson and GGG using different technique?

Jackson was beatable which made him vulnerable . Every fighter is vulnerable in my eyes because they all can be beaten .

 

fighting ww, bums and glass jawed fighters is the technique ggg has been using.

 

I don't think so .

Mugabi had brutal power . Julian had 1 punch LIGHTS OUT power . He hits you and you out before you hit the mat .

 

I think pound for pound Jackson is certainly one of the top 10 hardest hitters in history.
Having said that he wouldn't have beat Golovkin.

 

Golovkin is not a puncher on Julian's level. When the Triple Duck puts guys down, they tend to get back up. When the Hawk put guys down, they stayed put...

 

Lol..

 

jackson had unreal power, but when he was landing on mclellan and mcallum, they werent that hurt. They had great chins but did jackson KO many iron chinned fighters? his best wins were terry norris or herol graham?

 

You guys saying GGG fights bums need to look up JJ's resume, every time he stepped up he got put to sleep. And I like JJ a lot. In fact his best win arguably was against terry norris who was much smaller.

 

That is avery good point, JJ was a terrific puncher but was wanting in certain area's GGG would beat him inside 6

 

You should give the McCallum fight a rewatch. He was as badly hurt as he was in his entire career, which is saying something. Far more hurt than he was a literal decade later when P4P elite Roy Jones was whacking him. McCallum has a granite chin and the skill set to further reinforce his durability.

As for G-Man, he was a boiled down fighter if there ever was one. Jackson was giving up comical amounts of weight against him. If you want to see what a smaller fighter who's none the less a great puncher being unable to make a dent in the guy, go take a peek at Lebedev vs Guillermo Jones. No one is going to say Lebedev isn't a great puncher.

 

Technique...genetics...mindset/personality/force of will/capacity to be vicious (itself a nature vs. nurture conundrum) ...what proportion does each of these play in the recipe?

It probably varies depending on the individual. We also would never have any way of knowing either way.

Unless you box yourself, there's a much greater chance of you discerning every herb & spice in the Colonel's original chicken recipe than ever coming near an understanding of what's behind KO power.

 

IB just blew my mind with the mental connection there is towards power (Which is actually a true statement, any which way you cut it.) It is to one degree or another affected by your mindset.

 

Mike Tyson is what I would consider the ultimate triple-threat, possessing the holy triumvirate of ungodly natural athletic talent (he was literally BORN to be a maestro in the art of knocking 200+lb men unconscious), nonpareil technique (you couldn't ask for better coaching in one's key formative years, and not only did Cus fill his brain with rote how-to know-how but instilled a LOVE and RESPECT of the game that perhaps no other world champion boxer has really had in generations, so that Mike actually embraced and internalized his lessons and did his own independent research gleaning everything he could from old tapes of past champs to absorb their secrets), and, perhaps the aspect least appreciated but IMO still on nearly equal footing with the other two in terms of importance - he was such a sad and broken soul by adolescence that he was able to draw upon a nigh-inexhaustible well of rage, which took his already lethal combination of talent & skill and gave it a murderous turbo-boost...at least in that first half-decade when the bodies were literally bouncing off the canvas like bowling pins as fast as his management could set them up.

He wasn't just a beast of a physical specimen. He wasn't just a well-schooled instrument of destruction with as high a ring IQ as you're going to find in a puncher outside Joe Louis.

He was a SPITEFUL hitter...and that counts. Laying waste to seven foot men was therapeutic for him.

 

Now imagine Golovkin had all three of those elements instead of just two. Imagine he didn't view boxing as just a sport/game/job as he numerous times has gone on record saying. Imagine he experienced severe enough trauma in his early life to leave him embittered with a misanthropic chip on his shoulder and he actually enjoyed causing others harm.

Whoa.

Nobody to date would've made it past being KTFO in 2. Including probably even Kassim Ouma.

 

Nice thoughts IB. i agree you need to want to really hurt your man.

 

I hope I can put my thoughts on the sport together that articulately sometime in the near future.

You should stick around and be one of those literal 80 year olds on Classic who used to post about being ringside during Sugar Ray Robinson's last fight and meeting such and such in person. Everyone listens in everytime becauuse everything they drop is salient and they spin amazing little bits about the game out of nowhere.

TLDR;I'm wicked high, moving on.