Are some people seriously rating Floyd Mayweather as the best WW ever?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MrMagic, Jan 6, 2011.


  1. shabadoo

    shabadoo New Member Full Member

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    What WW would beat him today?
     
  2. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Here he answers this for you Popkers. Also, we all know what happened with the Tsyzu fight. Floyd tried getting it and Hatton beat him so he took Hatton

     
  3. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    sorry, but i cant give him any credit as you do for sharmba mitchell being his first welterweight bout....i mean the guy had 63 fights when Floyd fought him...and this was his 2nd at welterweight..it would be more like 2 super lightweights fighting each other at welterweight...
    mayweather at 140 and 147 have been jokes....hes fought the weakest opponents out there..out of 4 champions, he will always fight the 4th best....big bad floyd
     
  4. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Mitchell was just tune-up getting ready for another southpaw in Judah or Winky Wright
     
  5. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    He was NEVER going to fight Winky.
     
  6. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    The best fighter in the world needed a tune up for Zab Judah?

    And yet Baldomir didn't need one for Judah...weird...
     
  7. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I'm glad he didn't either. He was just becoming a welterweight and you can see in my avavtar that he was small as hell and he was trying to go up to light middleweight to fight a guy stylistically bad for him
     
  8. Concrete

    Concrete Boxing Addict Full Member

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    After Mayweather destroyed Gatti in his first PPV doing 350,000 sales. Mayweather's financial expectations became very high which I don't think the big names were willing to pay.
     
  9. TommyV

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    No. Could easily name 20-25 names off the top of my head who are ahead of him. That's no fault on his part though, welterweight is stacked with great names.
     
  10. FORMIDABLE

    FORMIDABLE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah right. Morales vs Diaz was built up as Morales' chance to become the first Mexican fighter to be a four-division champion. Had Morales beaten Diaz you bet he would be called Mr Four-Time.

    Yet if Pac does it, it shouldn't count?

    You act like Hearns, Duran, Leonard, DeLaHoya, Mayweather, Roy Jones, Toney never beat weak champions in their multiple-division championship careers.

    ****, Thomas Hearns, who was first celebrated as the original five-division champ, was gifted belts in three divisions over the span of four fights by beating Dennis Andries for the 175 belt, and then Roldan for the vacant middleweight title (which Hearns lost in his next fight by KO3 and also failed to win years earlier vs Hagler by the same result), and then Kinchen for a vacant title at 168.

    Both Kinchen and Roldan (though he was one of my favorite fighters) never won a world title. Yet it's only when Pac gets belts against perceived weak champs that people start crying about it.
     
  11. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I can't get excited about boxing fight fans overating a great fighter who is currently active. Always happens.
     
  12. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Um...I'm talking about championships, not titles. And there's a difference.

    Pac defeated Hatton, who was recognized as the official 140lb champion even though he didn't hold any of the four major straps at the time.

    He also defeated Barerra to win recognition as featherweight champion, even though, yet again, MAB wasn't in possession of any of the major titles at that point.

    So, if you count Diaz as a legitimate championship victory, and the Margarito fight as a legit jr. middleweight championship victory just because the WBC created a title for the occasion, then you have to eliminate the Hatton and MAB fights as title fights.

    Are you prepared to do that? Are you prepared to state that Barerra and Hatton weren't champions in their respective weight classes just to give the Diaz fight an unjustified amount of legitimacy as a championship bout?

    And, for the record, I never considered the Morales-Diaz fight to be for the 135lb champion, because I never considered Diaz to be the champion. Corrales, Casamayor, and Marquez have beeen the true kingpins at 135lb since 2005.