Are the British Light Heavyweights better than the super middleweights?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by RedDragonBoxing, Feb 4, 2012.


  1. Daviddee1983

    Daviddee1983 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Froch is a probably just above clev at the moment. Clev really at the startish of his career where as froch is coming to an end really. I think Froch wisely doesnt want this fight Clev is a class act and the natural weight and height difference would be too much to Froch. I believe that Clev can follow in Calzaghe's footsteps and be one of the best fighters to come out of Britain for a lot of years. I would have at the moment.
    1: Froch
    2:Cleverly
    3:De Gale(Believe he has a little bit more than grooves)
    4: Groves

    dont rate any of the others near this level im affraid.
     
  2. WalletInspector

    WalletInspector Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    There's a reason why you swapped accounts before posting this nonsense, isn't there?
     
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  4. JFT96

    JFT96 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jesus wept, that is one of the most biased posts I've read in a long time. Nothing I've highlighted in bold could in any way be considered a 'valid' reason for having Cleverly ahead of Froch- and as you can see, that's pretty much your whole argument.

    Disregarding you're odd views on Cleverly & Froch, I'd like to ask why you have Degale above Groves? I don't know what you've seen in him since he LOST to Groves that makes you believe 'he has a little bit more' but I think everyone else saw him struggle vs. an opponent who should have suited him down to a tee whilst Groves destroyed a mutual opponent far quicker than he managed to. But if that in some way has convinced you he should be ranked ahead at this moment then fine, it just seems to me to be a completely baseless claim
     
  5. harvinmagler

    harvinmagler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Froch-

    Jean Pascal
    Jermain Taylor
    Andre Dirrell
    Mikkel Kessler
    Arthur Abraham
    Glen Johnson
    Andre Ward

    Cleverley-

    Danny McIntosh
    Courtney Fry
    Antonio Brancalion
    Karo Murat
    Nadjib Mohammedi
    Aleksy Kuziemski
    Tony Bellew

    Your Argument is ******ed.
     
  6. Check_Hook

    Check_Hook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :patsch

    Are you for Real?

    Froch has wins over Taylor, Pascal, Dirrel, Johnson, Abraham... and seeing as though Dodson was being used earlier, Froch stopped a prime Dodson in 6.

    Cleverly IMO didnt beat Bellew, has wins over Oakey, Mcintosh, Brancalion, Murat?

    You save Froch looked like a cave man in the S6, Againt Bellew Cleverly was exposed of just having a big engine, nothing else he does is special at all.

    What a terrible point
     
  7. Markyboy86

    Markyboy86 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I disagree with the bits highlighted.
     
  8. Daviddee1983

    Daviddee1983 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I dont think Groves win against Degale was as convincing as some people may think. Was a very good close fight between 2 excellent up and coming fighters. My belief is degale is the better boxer has a bit more about him and I think will go further. I really like both fighter though and hope to see them fight again but once they are at the top.

    As for saying Bellew beat Clev no chance. Clev won by a few rounds was very impressed by Bellew expected him to get blown away but he has good heart and think he will do well aswell. Froch is quite slow and is not proven at light heavyweight. Clev is quick takes chances and very good too watch. Why do people on this forum come down on the british talent instead of getting behind these guys who are doing well.
     
  9. RedDragonBoxing

    RedDragonBoxing Ametuer Boxer Full Member

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    Ah ESB where if your opinion differs from everyone elses then you dont know **** about boxing

    Alls im saying is that at this moment in time Cleverly may just be the best out of the 168-175's. Froch is there for the taking and refused a fight with Cleverly, he says theres no money in it but who is he going to end up fighting? Froch is going to fight some Euro level fighter just to get a W if he cant get Bute. I doubt Froch sees the point in a Dirrell rematch so tell me what big money fight can you see happening?

    Clevers is far from perfect and quite frankly he does things in the ring that annoy me but he also has the ability to beat Froch (all be it close) thats why I have him above Froch.

    And for your information I swapped accounts because some Pacquiao Fan decided to get me banned for posting about Arum protecting Chavez from Martinez by putting him in with Margarito after Rubio.
     
  10. BoxingAnalyst

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    Surely theres a reason that EVERYBODY thinks Froch is more accomplished then Cleverly.

    And yes, you dont know **** about boxing.
     
  11. RedDragonBoxing

    RedDragonBoxing Ametuer Boxer Full Member

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    More Accomplished? Yes thats irrefutable

    But I never said he was more accomplished, just that I think Froch is there for the taking and Cleverly could pull it off at this point in time
     
  12. BlackBrenny

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    In no way, shape or form could you have cleverly above froch

    that was a brave post

    I dont think you dont know **** about boxing, but even joe calzaghe himself couldn't try to put cleverly above froch
     
  13. RedDragonBoxing

    RedDragonBoxing Ametuer Boxer Full Member

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    Well Achievement wise Froch is clearly ahead, I think people seriously misunderstood the point I was trying to make

    Personally id give Clevers a big chance of beating Froch at the present time, rewind a couple of years and people would say you dont know **** about boxing if you said Morales was to go 12 rounds with Maidana and it would be FOTY candidate.

    Too quick to judge mate
     
  14. BlackBrenny

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    I picked morales in that one lol
     
  15. happydrinks

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    When Cleverly can beat Bellew without having to it him in the bollocks I might consider him to have moved past European level.

    Until then I'm going to carry on giving 0 ****s about his **** career.