Are the Guys with the Bodybuilding bodies?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by Nigel_Benn, Aug 12, 2008.


  1. Ingar

    Ingar The Mean Machine Full Member

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    Hehehehe. True. :yep
     
  2. Pugsley

    Pugsley Fat Bastard Full Member

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    No coordination? Do I have patronise you while I make a dickhead out of myself? You try lifting that amount of weight and tell me how much coordination you dont have when the first minor slip in any direction will cause an unexpected breaking joint or worst still the weight slammin down on some part of your body.

    Now stabilise the bar at a horizontal position BEHIND YOUR HEAD and from a SQUATTING position stand up clean into a vertical position... lock knees straight with one foot behind the other. The transition from one stage to the next must be done as fast as possible with VERY LITTLE ROOM FOR ERROR, and I dont think there is any part of your body which it doesnt involve. If that isnt coordination or plyometric, then what the hell is it (for those who doubt ).

    I know you're half joking here, but 'no coordination', is just way off. I'm not saying I would do it any better than the average person off the street. But the clean and jerk is not something that can be underestimated.

     
  3. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Hey stupid it was tongue in cheek humour. Its ok to remove your head from your large ******* now..
     
  4. Pugsley

    Pugsley Fat Bastard Full Member

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    Sure I will. Now **** off
     
  5. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Good good. Then take your own advice and do the same ya smug ****. :hi:
     
  6. boxingtactics07

    boxingtactics07 Active Member Full Member

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    RDJ has a very valid point in that variety needs to come first before weights, especially if you're training for boxing or just ultimate fitness in general. You need to have stamina (bag-work, sparring), endurance (swimming, running, biking long distances), agility (fast-paced sports like basketball, jump-rope, sprinting) , speed (track runs), flexibility (gymnastics and oldschool calisthenics), strength (strongman exercises or weights focusing on general body motion movements rather than body parts), power (plyometrics, olympic weights), coordination (balance/tennis ball exercises), etc. All this means is that we need to continuously and constantly shock our body with a wide variety of different exercises. The problem that he's pointing out is that there is often too much emphasis on ONE of these goals, instead of all of them. If I spend all week doing nothing but boxing gym-work and I then come home to perform a strongman workout that consists of just farmers walks, tire flips, and alternate sled drags every monday, wednesday, and friday, it's going to leave me lacking in a lot of other departments. Any Sports specifics exercises need to come first and the rest can come after training or on a non-boxing day.
     
  7. SweetScience

    SweetScience Accuracy is the key! Full Member

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    Why all the hate?
     
  8. SweetScience

    SweetScience Accuracy is the key! Full Member

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    LOL, some of you assholes are getting riled up by my post. I dont even understand why. good god.
     
  9. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    Parkour, that is something that requires coordination. I have lifted and I'm not impressed with the amount of coordination required at all. Sorry if that offends you people.
     
  10. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    Yeah, that **** is insane, I would try freerunning, but I'm too *****, haha.. ILl take a shot to the face or ribs, but when it comes to potentially falling off a building...hmm
     
  11. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because you are giving absolute bull**** information which may be passed on to other people. It's because of people like you giving this bad info athletes have issues with using weights. They think they'll get too big or too slow, lose endurance, flexibility or whatever.

    You don't know a thing about weight training so stop trying to give advice on the subject.
     
  12. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    How the **** did I miss this post! Thank you for expressing my opinion better than I did myself :happy
     
  13. Relentless

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    seriously warren just stfu.
     
  14. Relentless

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    dont bother, that is the same (fat) guy who done a set of push ups and 'felt' his shoulders getting bigger.:lol:
     
  15. Ingar

    Ingar The Mean Machine Full Member

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    For the record, I'm not talking about bicepcurling or pec-decking. That is something that has very little functional purpose for athletic ability, if that is what you mean I clearly see your point. But you read my post, you know that I'm not talking about dumbell flyes and tricep kickbacks. :p
    Since you haven't been impressed by the amount of coordination required for lifting, I'll assume that you haven't tried doing a proper snatch.
    Like I said, there is little that requires the amount of coordination of ripping up a maximum lift to a great height, diving under it in a squat position, balancing it and then standing up with it. It's a full body movement requiring tremendous power output and speed. Have you seen the speed of which some of the Olympic lifter dive under the bar?

    You know, I rarely disagree with your post on alot of subjects.
    But when it comes to resistance training, you've always been hell-bent on disagreeing and seemingly not even taking to context what I've been trying to tell you.
    Like I said before, everything has it's place.
    Proper weightlifting (demanding compound movements which of the likes I've described) definitely has a huge one if you wanna get bigger, stronger, faster. That's a proven fact.
    If you still believe weights are uneccessary, then okay.
    That's your opinion. I think I've been pretty clear on my views on the subject and if you're still bent on disagreeing; fine.