Are the Klit Brothers ATG?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Talivar, Nov 23, 2012.


  1. DrBanzai

    DrBanzai Active Member Full Member

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    If thew were American they would be top 5 ATG.
     
  2. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Both will make the HOF, but only Wlad is an ATG. Vits resume is very weak and he's never beaten the best fighter in his division. He may scrape in at 25, but that's it. Wlad could very well break the top 10 before the end of his career and has fought far better competition than his brother along with excellent longevity. Both would be contenders in any era though if not outright champions in my opinion. But fighters careers are based on what they've done and who they've beaten, not who we think they could beat.
     
  3. SteelShoulders

    SteelShoulders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    never fought each other, therefore is not possible
     
  4. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Wlad is getting there.... yes.
     
  5. jisi

    jisi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good
     
  6. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Co-sign this :deal

    One caveat: If Wlad will have to be careful not to be knocked out in an embarrassing fashion by a non-descript opponent from hereon. His entire Top 10 ATG claim is based on the idea that he is a different fighter now than 10 years ago. If he can retire undefeated from here it will be hard to dismiss him from being ranked with the best HWs in history.
     
  7. Talivar

    Talivar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why does it take 10 years undeafeated vs what "some" are saying is weak competition to be maybe considered HOF or ATG tho?, As stated earlier fighters like Ward get the ATG status thrown at them way way faster even tho they too only beat what many on here class as slow plodding eurobums. Why is there much harsher rules and requirements for certain fighters?. Even Broner is already getting so much overhype that it wont be long before some here start claiming top 10 P4P status and then HOF and ATG.
     
  8. stebinn

    stebinn Active Member Full Member

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    Wladimir is an ATG, too soon to tell where his standing is though. Even though I think Vitali was better at one point, it is highly debatable if he is ATG or not.
     
  9. sugarngold

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    Yes, they are both ATG heavyweights. How high is certainly up for debate but I believe both brothers Klitschko have carved out enough of a legacy by winning and defending their various championship belts over the years to be worthy of inclusion of any discussion on great heavyweight boxers.

    I know on Fight Night they are both hard as **** to beat. I can use Mike Tyson to flatten Wladimir - but Vitali always puts Mike out.
     
  10. Marciano

    Marciano AmicoDiNessuno Full Member

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    Iam not a Klitschko fan But yes the Klitschkos are ATG but not in the Top 10 ATG list no chance.
     
  11. BadDog

    BadDog Active Member Full Member

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    wrong, boxing doubled in popularity in US in the last 10 years

    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/10/...an-data-shows-bright-future-ufc-combat-sports
     
  12. Marciano

    Marciano AmicoDiNessuno Full Member

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    I dont Think so sorry Prime Tyson would Beat Vitali Klitschko a Prime Tyson was not only a 4 round Boxer renember The Fight with Bornecrusher Smith or Tony Tucker he goes 12 rounds with Them Tyson was a very strong complete Fighter in his Prime with a great Jab - Power - Speed and great Boxing skills and Combination, Vitali was to slow for Tyson and Vitalis Defends ??? you have see when comes a strong Boxer with skills power and good jab Like Lennox Lewis wat will happen with Vitalis face.Renember Tyson is not Areola or Peter or gomez and all this fat slow Bums what vitali has beaten easy. Prime Tyson is a other story and other Level thats sure. And Prime Tyson had absolute no Problems with Big Guys in the Ring.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W2iGbwn1Qw[/ame]
     
  13. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wlad is already a top 10. And he could climb as high as 3-7 depending on who he beats and how long he fights on winning.

    Vitali, with those 4 gaping prime yrs missing from his resume, is lacking in the resume dept. H2H, no doubt top 10. But overall, missing those 4 yrs, it'd be a stretch to push him into the top 10. Right now, I got him between 11-15, and a win over Haye would certainly help his chances, but Haye would have to win some fights afterwards.

    I actually think Vitali's win over Charr will help him legacywise moreso than a win over Haye. He's fighting Juan Carlos Gomez next and a win there cements him in the top 10 IMO. He's actually pursuing a title, unlike Haye who seems content on pursuing paychecks.:think
     
  14. Luigi

    Luigi Member Full Member

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    Absolutely not ATG material. They need to just go away.
     
  15. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    exactly