LOL omg wlad fought ONE guy that was overweight!!! Ali used to fight construction workers and cab drivers
Yeah, Julius Long would be top 5 ATG had he fought in the 30s, but skill matter nowadays, and guys like Long are cans. Skillset+size= dominance in 2011.
Wladimir Klitschko has had a five and a half year period where he has looked unbeatable beating legit contenders most of the time,could you ever say the same about Shavers or Moorer.Vitali is a nightmare for Tyson stylewise and he is a certain hall of famer.
I have a lot more respect for Vitali than Wlad, but history will probably remember Wlad more fondly. (I personally think Vitali fights the guys he wants to keep away from Wlad's chin and leaves Wlad the more obvious wins.) But that's just me. Anybody who carries a belt for years, even during a weak era and with a boring style, will be put on ATG lists (Slappy Joe?). Neither will be ranked with the true legends, but deserve acclaim for beating the best available. As sportsmen, they are probably the greatest example on Earth. Intelligent, educated, classy, able to speak multiple languages, etc.... As human beings they deserve tons of respect.
Especially at Earnie Shavers and Archie Moore who neither were Heavyweight Champion of anything. :roflatsch
These arguments are so funny. But I will say this, YES, The Heavyweight division simply isnt what it was, both because of talent, and personality. How many casual fans does anybody here know that actually gives a **** about the next title defence?
If they weren't ATG nobody would have asked these questions over and over and over again. It just shows that they most certainly are. Nobody asks if Peter or Chagaev or Valuev are ATG.
Klitlickers travel in packs I see. Post all the smilies, troll accusations, fails you want. It still doesn't put either of the Wonder Twins on any intelligent fan's ATG list. PS: Wlad gets destroyed by "two dimensional bums" like Bowe, Moorer, Shavers, and Walcott inside 8 rounds. Deal with it.
BTW, More and more Klitschko fans try and use racism as an argument. I am getting the feeling they only love the Klits so much because they are actually white and accuse others who do not have the same level of love (or insanity) of being racist towards them and hating them for being white.
Not for me Unfortunately for them there just hasn't been the level of opposition to justify them being ATG's. Will they get in the Hall of Fame? YES Are they All time greats? NO