Are the Klitschko brothers All Time Greats?

yea they know eff all...but YOU bubby know the sport A-Z

which is why your statement about Williams being as good as foreman is very valid indeed....

 

Not worse than the 30s, 50s or 80s. If that's a criterion then make sure you don't rank Louis, Marciano or Holmes above Wlad because their eras are even worse than Wlad's :deal

 

FACTS about Wladimir Klitschko

- All Time Great and Hall Of Famer

- 2nd most dominant fighter of all time (Big Brother Vitali is the most dominant fighter of all time)

- IBF/WBO/WBA/IBO/RING Unified Heavyweight Champion of the world

- Olympic Gold Medalist

- Ring Magazine Top 5 P4P Fighter

- 56 wins, 49 knockouts

- has made 17 dominant title defences

- has defeated 10 world champions:

David Haye (25-1)
Chris Byrd I (31-1)
Chris Byrd II (39-2)
Sam Peter I (24-0)
Sam Peter II (34-3)
Ruslan Chagaev (25-0)
Sultan Ibragimov (22-0)
Lamon Brewster (33-3)
Hasim Rahman (45-5)
Francois Botha (44-3)
Ray Mercer (30-4)

- has defeated tons of top contenders:

Eddie Chambers (35-1)
Tony Thompson (31-1)
Jameel McCline (28-2)
Calvin Brock (29-0)
Monte Barrett (23-0)
Axel Schulz (26-3)
Ray Austin (24-3)
DaVarryl Williamson (20-2)
Derrick Jefferson (23-2)
Charles Shufford (17-1)
Eliseo Castillo (18-0)
etc.....

- has defeated 8 undefeated fighters:

Sam Peter (24-0)
Ruslan Chagaev (25-0)
Sultan Ibragimov (22-0)
Calvin Brock (29-0)
Monte Barrett (23-0)
Eliseo Castillo (18-0)
Zoran Vujecic (14-0)
Najee Shaheed (16-0)

 

FACTS about Vitali Klitschko

- WBC Heavyweight Champion of the world

- All Time Great and Hall Of Famer

- Has never truly lost

- There is no blueprint to beat him

- He is unbeatable

- He is the most dominant fighter of all time

- He has dominated every opponent he has ever faced

- 45 have tried and 45 have been dominated

- Has never been behind on the scorecards at the end of a fight

- Has never been knocked down

- He is the most intimidating HW of all time

- Greatest heavyweight champ KO% of all time

- Only man ever to be world heavyweight champ in boxing and kickboxing

It's a shame that the 4 year layoff robbed him of a stronger resume. He was WBC and RING undisputed HW Champ when he retired in 2004. We never got to see his true prime. If Vitali had stayed healthy, he would've dominated the HW division from 2005-2008 and his resume would've been on par with Wladimir's great resume.

Vitali is 40 years old now. He came back after the 4 year layoff and is still dominating. He hasn't lost a single round in his comeback.

Vitali beats any HW from any era.

 

Vitali and Wlad are the two most dominant fighters of all time. The numbers and stats don't lie.

Either Klitschko beats any HW from any era.

 

:yep

 

klitscho nuttthuger at its finest lewis tko 6

 

Vitali Klitschko vs Lennox Lewis

THE TRUTH

Vitali took the fight on just 10 days notice.

Vitali was clearly winning the fight 4-2 on all 3 scorecards at the time of the controversial doctor stoppage. Lewis barely survived the 2nd round and almost got KO'd, he was badly hurt, holding on for dear life, wobbling everywhere and staggering around the ring like a drunk. Lewis was badly hurt several times in the fight and was getting outboxed, outworked, outmuscled and outlanded by Vitali.

punches landed

Vitali 156

Lewis 102


Lewis was exhausted, worn down and hurt from the accumulation of punches and was ready to get KTFO again, he collapsed onto his stool at the end of the 6th round, Vitali was clearly the fresher of the two, he was a man on a mission and would've KO'd Lewis for sure if the fight had continued.

After the fight, Vitali intimidated the **** out of Lewis and made him look like a *****.

All the fans at Staples Center cheered for Vitali and booed Lewis after the fight.

Lewis promised Vitali a rematch.

Vitali destroyed Kirk Johnson in 2 rounds and called out Lewis again in the post fight interview. The scared Lewis retired shortly after that fight.

Lewis turned down 40 million dollars for a rematch and retired like a coward because he knew he would get destroyed by Vitali.

Vitali dominated Lewis and scared his ***** ass into retirement.

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George Foreman: "Vitali was winning the fight. Lewis got lucky. There has to be a rematch!"

Jim Lampley: "A lucky escape for Lewis who was clearly losing the fight"

Even Emanuel Steward was upset and pissed off at Lewis for blatantly ducking a Vitali rematch.

Lewis is scared to death of Vitali.

 

Vitali wasn't even in his prime yet.

Lewis was 37, not really that old for a HW.

Vitali is 40 and is still dominating. He hasn't lost a single round in his comeback.

Lewis said he was "at the peak of my powers" when he got his ass whooped by Vitali.

Lewis was coming off the KO win over Tyson. In the Lewis-Tyson post fight interview Lewis stated "I'm like fine wine, I get better with age"

In an interview right before the Vitali fight, Lewis said "I'm at the peak of my powers, I will keep fighting for many more years"

Vitali dominated Lewis and scared him into retirement.

Vitali is a better fighter than Lewis.

 

****ing hell this thread turned into a massive pile of **** fast.

 

Hall of Famers, yet - ATGs, no.