Are The Klitschkos....

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by crippet, Dec 24, 2009.


  1. crippet

    crippet Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ...The only supposed ATG fighters who don't have to fight the no. 2 fighter in their era?? ie.. Each other.

    Also they are given leeway for their brothers avenging their losses
    Could Vlad ever beat Sanders or Purity ??? Who knows Could Vit beat Byrd?? Not proven!

    But when some rabid Klitschko fans start comparing to other fighters, the resume, well the win part of the resume get's blurred into one big resume.

    Imagine another another boxer in history who got kudos for someone else avenging their losses - Or imagine some fighters with simerlarly talented brothers Rocky Marciano and his equally talented brother...imagine the resume - Sonny Liston with brother!! LOL
    Hell imagine a lower tier fighter with a brother who's resumes kept getting crossed over Hell if Frank Bruno had a brother they would have a better resume and he at least lost to a young Lewis...

    So when I hear someone claim to the greatness of a Klitschko I know that they are literally half as good as they say!



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  2. RUSKULL

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    It's just killing you isn't it? The brothers are ruling the division in dominating fashion and all haters like you can do is whine...........
     
  3. crippet

    crippet Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I dont mind them, but as you say , the brothers ruling the division, thats 2 people people ruling a division....not really much compared to one person ruling the division.
    About half as good really.........
     
  4. TommyV

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    Nobody minds. But they are kind of missing the boat here, neither can say they took on the best because they haven't taken on each other. I don't expect them to fight each other, but they are unfortunate to an extent to be around at the same time because neither can truly claim to be the supreme champion, they can only claim the division between them as a duo. Maybe Wlad will be able to do so when Vitali retires, if Wlad is still around and in his prime.
     
  5. salty trunks

    salty trunks Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fighting each other would prove little anyway. They both have the same questions about their character in fights.

    Both are dominating in the same fashion and both have lost in similar fashion only Wlad to a lower level of fighter so fighting each other proves nothing.
     
  6. TommyV

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    What does that mean? I don't expect them to fight as I said, but it would prove a lot. It just won't happen, and nor should we expect it to.

    What are you talking about? They couldn't of lost in more different fashion.
     
  7. ramalinga

    ramalinga Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hmmm...Dempsey avoiding black fighters, Schmeling not given a title fight against Braddock for political reasons, Ali's rematch with Liston who most likely took a dive, Bowe refusing to fight Lewis, Tyson wasting a good chunk of his career in prison because he was an out of control - psycho...and you complaing about two brothers keeping a promise to their mother???

    Vitali unproven if he could beat Byrd? He outboxed Byrd 7 - 2 rounds with one good arm. Wlad would have beaten Purrity in a rematch more easily than Brewster, he was green as hell at age 21 when he overpaced against Purrity and lost entirely due to that mistake. The Klitschkos haven't beaten prime ATG's, neither have Holmes or Tyson. Yeah, it would be nice if they had some star names on their resumes, but they still dominated good fighters. Schulz gave Foreman and Moorer a tough fight, Mercer gave Lewis a tough fight, Wlad dominated them completely. The Klitschkos won't ever get the best HW resumes in terms of big names, but they show conistency against good B+ level fighters.
     
  8. Quitali Bitchko

    Quitali Bitchko The Punisher Full Member

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    They are not and never will be ATG. :deal
     
  9. AbbeyFN

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    Vitaly will retire in two years and then Wvlad will dominate for 2-3 more years and then it will be over.
     
  10. crippet

    crippet Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This post illustrates the problem
    You are taking single fighters from the past and comparing them to 2 of the present.
    How about comparing their resumes to 2 other 1 and 2's of another decade
    They fall way short against ,say, Lewis and Holyfied - how about Tyson and Holmes - Ali & Frazier. They come over pretty laughable now
    Lennox lewis avenged his wins on his own, the Klitschkos can only do this together!!

    Whats more there are two of them and they havent even unified the titles between the both of them!!
     
  11. prideofvbeach

    prideofvbeach Top 10 Pound-For-Pound Full Member

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    The only thing people should be complaining about is why isn't there a real threat in the HW division to the brothers. This is like Holmes era all over again.
     
  12. crippet

    crippet Well-Known Member Full Member

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    They are an all time great Boxing tag team!!
    :lol:
     
  13. salty trunks

    salty trunks Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You wouldnt consider Wlad falling apart against Brewster and Vitali falling apart against Lewis similar character and ability flaws?
     
  14. crippet

    crippet Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Except Holmes didnt need the help of a brother to dominate
     
  15. TommyV

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    Wlad got beat by Brewster because of his stamina and he couldn't handle the pressure. Also his chin gave way.

    Vitali get beat by Lewis because he didn't defend himself at first, didn't defend the cut, was too aggressive.