Are the past Eras overrated or the new generation just not that good?

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I have but I don't feel like it right now. I'm about to leave and go out. It's 8:21 here in houston lol.
     
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  2. G Man

    G Man Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury smashes anyone in history.
     
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  3. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

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    I said pre-90s. And yes boxing has improved since then - it’s continuous. You notice the categorical difference with time. That’s why you can look at Usyk vs Joshua and Ali vs Frazier and see how far boxing has advanced. Just think, Ali was considered fast and elusive in his day. Just look at video, he’s slow and has no defense.
     
  4. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

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    What do you mean ‘which one’? You are seriously brain damaged. Sport, every sport continuously progresses.
    Your hair continuously grows.
    Can you notice a difference from a week ago? Maybe slightly. Can you notice a big difference if you haven’t cut your hair for a year, and you see a picture of yourself from a year ago?
    Please tell me that understanding this isn’t beyond you lol
     
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  5. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

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    Hahahaha ‘Bro help me out here, I have no argument so please give me strength in numbers with some additional emotional assertions’

    I’m still waiting on an argument.. instead of calling for backup, why don’t you google what an argument is and start making a point of some sort?
     
  6. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

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    Sure, because I don’t think he’s the best thing since sliced bread lol. Crawford and Spence both trounce him, prime Pac would clearly beat him, Maidana did beat him, he avoided fighting the best…
    This isn’t hating, this is facts. You mad?
     
  7. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

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    You really are scatterbrained. What does Floyd have to do with this topic? Read the thread title, learn what an argument is, and make one.
    You’re frantically screaming out your opinion and calling for backup as you continuously fail to address anything. Your belief is not an argument. Stop screeching out your beliefs. Why do you believe those things… go!
     
  8. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

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    I’m not exactly a Fury fan but anybody who doesn’t admit this is simply out of their mind.
     
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  9. JunlongXiFan

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    Can't beat anybody in the present, though. Usyk>>
     
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  10. Loudon

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    I’m one of Tyson’s biggest fans.

    I’ve been watching him since 2007.

    I know of his family history.

    However, this is just a silly comment based on nothing.
     
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  11. Loudon

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    You didn’t say pre-90’s.

    I posted exactly what you said.

    You said: Any other era.

    Shall I post it again?

    You made a gross exaggeration, and I called you out on it.

    Okay, you think that it’s continuous progress.

    Now we’re getting somewhere.

    So if it’s continuous progress, then a 20 year period must be classed as a significant period of time.

    Which is why I asked for your opinions regarding the LW versions of Floyd fighting today.

    Yet when I asked you that question, you got all defensive and upset.

    You come on here making all sorts of claims, then you’re not happy to answer questions when you’re challenged on your opinions.

    Those HW fights don’t show you how far boxing has advanced. Ha!

    They’re just completely different stylistic match ups.

    One was a technical boxing match, and the other one was a fight.

    I can show you Leonard vs Benitez from 1978, and then I can show you Gatti-Ward from the 00’s, and say:

    “These guys were miles apart in technical ability”

    So how are you going to base your opinion off of just 2 fights, when there’s many other fights and divisions to look at??

    Ali was considered fast, because he WAS fast.

    Not in the mid 70’s.

    He shouldn’t even have been fighting at that point.

    However, from the start of his career until his ban, he was incredibly fast.

    The footage is there. Go and watch it.

    Ali was faster than Usyk in his prime. Ali had faster hand speed and faster feet. Do you really need me to post up a video.

    Yes, he did have a defence. A great defence, based upon his reflexes and his unorthodox style. Not against Frazier when he was diminished, where they had slug fests, but in his prime, where he moved back like Roy Jones did.

    It’s hilarious that you actually believe what you do. I actually feel sorry for you.

    I’ll ask you a question that I asked the other guy yesterday:

    Who at MW today possess the skill sets that McCallum, Toney and Kalambay did?
     
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  12. Loudon

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    So you’re now comparing hair to the sport of boxing?

    Haha!

    SMH

    No, you absolute genius, the sport doesn’t continue to progress.

    If it did, then these current MW’s would be the consensus best MW’s of all time.

    As would every fighter of any other weight class.

    Yet anyone with any modicum of boxing intelligence, KNOWS that there’s MANY divisions today which are NOWHERE NEAR as great as what they once were.

    They know that there’s many fighters of the past who were BETTER than many of TODAY’S guys.

    Everybody knows that the current MW’s aren’t anywhere near as talented as the guys from the early 90’s.

    Start a thread on it and see what everyone else says.

    Then you can also do that for a NUMBER of OTHER divisions.

    I gave you the list, but all you did was cry.

    The current SMW’s aren’t as talented as the 90’s guys.

    Today’s WW’s and JMW’s are no more talented than they were in the 80’s, 90’s and 00’s.

    Just choose a division and we’ll do a comparison.

    I’ve already listed you today’s HW’s.

    Today’s HW’s consist of two exceptional fighters, before there’s a deep drop off.

    Wilder isn’t a great fighter, and AJ barely survived an old Wlad, before being run over by Mr. Olympia = Andy (snickers man) Ruiz.

    Today’s guys at HW are no better than the HW’s of the early 90’s, which consisted of: Evander, Lennox, Mike, Bowe, Holmes and Mercer etc.

    Wilder and AJ couldn’t have survived in the early 90’s, and even Holmes in his early 40’s would be a top 5 guy today.

    In short, you haven’t got a damn clue what you’re talking about. And the fact that you’ve refused to do the comparisons tells us everything.
     
  13. G Man

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    Fury has beaten lots of present day fighters, including the schooling of Wlad and the whooping of Wilder x3. He hasn't fought Usyk so you cannot say that he can't beat him.
     
  14. Loudon

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    Help me out?

    I could have destroyed you on here if I’d have signed up at 13 years old.

    You have no understanding of anything.

    Calling for back up?

    I don’t need back up for you.

    You don’t even know what you’ve previously typed.

    I had to show you.

    You are hopeless.

    Start making an argument?

    I’ve given you logical examples and have asked you SEVERAL TIMES to do comparisons with a number of divisions.

    Yet I’m still waiting.
     
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  15. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I’ve never come across anyone as thick in my life.

    SMH

    I’ve already told you why I asked about Floyd.

    YOU said that the sport keeps progressing.

    So I asked you if a version of Floyd from TWENTY YEARS AGO AT LW, could find success today, after supposedly 20 years of progression from the 00’s.

    Do you understand???
     
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