Are the people who claim Hopkins made racist comments actually racist themselves?

Fair enough: most likely cost him the election. He was the frontrunner until that point and that statement unleashed a shitstorm. Arnold's case is hearsay, Hopkins is on the record.

 

It would not of gained any traction because Joe is virtually unknown in the states

 

I don't care about what Hopkins has said. You argued that the earlier definition of racism was incorrect, which it isn't. The Oxford Dictionary is the English language, so I don't know how you can call it's definitions stupid. It can never be wrong.

 

Good post. I think generally the people who are really upset by the comment actually harbor deep racist feelings toward black people. They get tired of being called racists because in their minds this is injust, which also means they choose not to acknowledge racism and their social position. So when a black person makes a "racist comment" it's an excuse to point to the finger and say, "see, black people are racist too!". I've heard people get real nasty about it to, practially saying they want Hopkins lynched. I'm not approving of Hopkins comments, I think we can all agree that it was an ignorant thing to say. However, you have to take into consideration the history of racism, both past and present. We don't live in a perfect world with a level playing field where race isn't a factor, otherwise we wouldn't even be having this discussion. Whether you want to accept it not, whites are in power and blacks have been victimized by racism for hundreds of years now. Yes, I know things have improved, blacks are no longer lynched but racism is still very present. All you have to do it drive through the "bad" part of town and the "good" part of town and you'll notice the color divide.

As a parallel example you can look at it like a class system of a privileged ruling class and a peasant class. If you look at this way you can understand why if a peasant said "I'll never lose to someone from the ruling class!" would not have the same effect as the opposite. Not a perfect example but I hope it gets the point across.

 

It wasn't racist. At least not by the definition of racism. Some posters are just ulta-sensitive I guess.

 

Agreed.I dont give a rats arse as such,i just object to the principle of it;i.e.Pops can say what he likes,but if it was reversed all hell would break loose.'You can insult me,but it shouldnt invoke less outrage than if i insult you.'Thats wrong and dumb.

 

Yeah, I am racist because I think a racist comment is racist...:roll:

Great logic, that!

If that were the case, the only non-racist people would be the ones making racist remarks and claiming they were not racist remarks or those who didn't think any remarks at all could be racist!:nut

 

"Champion of free speech?":huh - how many of us want a quasi fascist draconian society where what we say is censored and punishable.Thats about as unique and worthy as being a 'champion of porn or alcohol'
Political correctness is open to interpretation Rumsey.
"Its only pops saying what he likes,being ghetto and hyping the fight,but hes black,so its ok,no problem"
I think THAT is political correctness gone mad.

 

Its a terrible line of argument Decebal.A total cop out.Criticising racism merely exposes ones own racism,thereby as a consequence giving racist people an untouchable status?Dumb.

 

You've basically said what I wanted to say. I was outraged at first but then came to realise I was getting my pants in a twist over very little.

 

That is crap,,Are you gonna tell me and everyone else here that if Joe said " I aint never gonna lose to no black boy ", that would be a small issue? Jrssr Jackson/Mr QUITE FRANKLY, Stephen Smith. and other leaders, as well as the NAACP, woul demand a pblic apology ....you and the rest of the liberal geeks on here know that :twisted::twisted::twisted:

 

I lived in sothwest CT ( Cos Cob ), when Imus sid that..it was dumb, and Jesse Jackson had to apologize for calling the Jewish area " Hymietown "..If Jesse had to apologize, why not Imus and Hopkins??....People are sensitive, and that should bekept in mind