Are the people who claim Hopkins made racist comments actually racist themselves?

Ive never heard ANYONE say'political correctness?' yes i love it its great',so youre hardly the 'Spartacus of free speech' you portray yourself as Rumsey.Who doesnt support freedom of speech?Hops for you can say what he likes,but you want to scupper peoples right to be pissed off at his comments,by calling them racist?Wheres their freedom of speech?

Yes screw Political correctness,we all agree,if it gives a free pass to Hopkins that Joe wouldnt get.A form of P.C. which youre upholding.Positive discrimination basically.
people do like consistency and fairness,few supports dumb P.Correctness however,the shield you hide behind.

 

The problem with freedom of speech is that it isnt fair as we dont all have it in the same way.Its for a select priviliged few.Sure i can say what i like,but its not going in the papers or tv is it?Why should words be seen as more relevant and meaningful because someone famous said them.Its elitist.It suits people with a platform,but does nothing for the average Joe.

Theres better things to campaign for than Hopkins right to be racist and things like that.If freedom of speech is just defending celebrities rights to abuse it and publicly spout whatever **** they think of,its not that important.

As i said ,if youre not a public figure,nobody cares what you say,which is fine,but i couldnt give a toss if Britney Spears views on Iraq are upheld or suppressed to be honest.Ive got better things to worry about.

 

Yep. I actually thought about it a little more and there's seems to be a couple different types of reactions.

1) The person who really has no harsh feelings toward black people and wishes no harm though they may still have some racist feelings. They aren't real comfortable with the ideal of their social position so the "double standard" example is a way to rationalize things.

2)The type of person who generally hates black people and mutters the n-word in private. You can think of it like someone who hates a classmate or co-worker. If that classmate or co-worker makes a negative comment about that person it's a perfect excuse to let out those bottled feelings and start a fight with them. You can also probably their post history and you'll notice a pattern of who they choose to attack and defend.

 

ok,thats a bit far fetched.
Anyway,i do see what you mean Rumsey,and once would have fought the good fight with you on principle,but now i cant be bothered worrying about well known peoples rights to have their utterances broadcast in the media.
Thats all it amounts to really,isnt it?
I,alas, no longer give a toss,theres better things to fight for.

 

Yes i suppose what i support is the notion that people have the right to be annoyed at Hops,without themselves being accused of racism when artculating that grievance;That sort of social pressure IS an insidious form of censorship.
If you cry foul yourself,you run the risk of being called bigoted by another.Thats not right.

We have a problem in England wherein if you complain about uncontrolled immigration,you run a high risk of being called racist.That is a suppression of free speech.Likewise Claiming people who are annoyed at Hops are inherently racist is just applying a social pressure,hoping they will be too ashamed to speak out.
I dont buy it.

 

I bet your one of these naive white brits who think the UK is the least racist country in the world, like Obama would be elected in a heart beat in the all things equal land that is Britain:roll:atsch

IAnother example, Jay-Z not selling out Glastonbury (for the first time in its history) is another example of how pure and innocent the UK is. ****-off!

 

surreal deal, on a boxing note explain to me why is it every time a black american boxier fights a white britidh one, according to the British press, the whole world (this includes the continent of Africa) is supposed on the white boxers side...like its good (white) vs evil (black)!

 

err, what??? source??

 

Europe is a pretty racist place and it's true it is often forgotten. I just hope it doesn't get worse; I'd hate to live in a really racist continent, like Africa.

Actually, that has more to do with the fact that Glastonbury people tend not to be hip-hop people. I could have told you that Jay Z would not be a hit there before he was even signed. It's like the Sisters of Mercy/Public Enemy tour: it's not a question of race, it's a question of genre.

 

Why wouldn't Africans support a British boxer? :twisted:

 

I Cant explain it,because i dont think its the case.The beauty of boxing is that it transcends race,a great fighter is a great fighter,regardless.
It wasnt Calzaghe who made race an issue,it was Hops.This thread shouldnt even exist,but it does,thanks to you know who.