Are the technical boxing skills of Jim Driscoll disgustingly archaic?

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  1. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    BTW, to clarify what I meant, watch how young Zab Judah fights in this very ordinary little clip in his fight against Mickey Ward. Zab also relies on speed and reflexes (which are on another level) but the way he manages his weight and maintains his balance and fighting posture as he punches and moves is on another level, imo. You can tell he’s spent hundreds and hundreds of hours drilling and working on these things. It’s all second-nature and a matter of reflexes for him at this point. And Zab was not regarded as some kind of brilliant technical fighter (and he's certainly no ATG).

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  2. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Cheeky self bump for a top quality thread on all sides.
     
  3. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    When McFarland fought Welsh in the UK one of the reports compared him to Driscoll.
     
  4. Bujia

    Bujia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I learned a lot from Pat M in this thread. Sung-Kil Moon was a great technician, but a guy like Pernell Whitaker wouldn’t even be given a second look in his gym because he crossed his feet sometimes. Fantastic. Just brilliant.
     
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  5. Samtotheg

    Samtotheg Active Member Full Member

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    which report was this ? both Mcfarland and Driscoll are superb despite what dummies in here said !
     
  6. Samtotheg

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    this talk about Driscoll having trouble with a swarmer is foolishness the guy hes fighting is trying to swarm and failing, what is not being observed by people making Driscoll analysis is Jem is controlling distance masterfully, He is getting spike to leap in because hes always more than a step away, Jem is pumping that lead hand (milling or feinting ) so he is not making it easy to walk up to him either(hes controlling the distance and intiative) he turns his head with that hook to keep his head off center. He feints and hops back or feints and hop forward so you can not tell when hes gonna advance or hop back and if you throw while hes hopped back and your stepping jab is short you are eating a right hand counter every time , or he will side step and throw a lead hook at the same time .He also jabs with the lead hand down pushing the head up into the path of the rear hand .What appears like him being off balance is him shift punching to close distance!
     
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  7. Samtotheg

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    Langfords technique and defense is superior to modern era, lost in this analysis is after every punch Langford going for tie ups or his opponents is part of defense and controlling intiative(or whos turn it is) his head movement is there but its combined with PUNCHING so you cant see it if you do not look for it, is parry is superior to bobbing and weaving , he can catch jabs and hooks with the rear hand with a hand free to counter(lead hand) and him standing to his opponents left (away from the right) with head over the rear foot makes his opponents rear hand not viable anyways . His feinting is superior and his drawing jabs are as well in the Lang fight watch how Langford keeps walking forward and forward h e wants lang to jab him to stop him from getting closer and when lang jabs Langford parries and counters , high level stuff if you know how to see it or look for it !
     
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  8. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Sporting Life- 1910 May 31 (page 2)
    McFarland has all the easy Litheness and grace of a panther, and altogether reminds one immensely of Jim Driscoll. His style is as effortless as Jim's, and like the wonderful feather-weightm he is alwas traveling far faster than he appears to be.
     
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  9. Samtotheg

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    very interesting I thought they look similar (packey would bend his knees and look like he would lung in only to hop back and vice versa , As Jim does in the spike fight) I always learn **** from your posts Vesti!
     
  10. BitPlayerVesti

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    Here's more footage of Driscoll, he was 38 here and had had a long layoff though. It'd be interesting if there was any of early in the fight where he was apparently comepletely outboxing Ledoux until the 15th.
     
  11. Samtotheg

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    yes he looked good in this fight til the end of thats a 10 or 12 rounder driscoll wins for sure ! If you seen that Hayes vs driscoll footage are you able to tell who is who, I kinda can tell Driscoll(the one deploying the long uppercut more often)
     
  12. 70sFan865

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    Bump, cause why not? :)
     
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  13. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Cheeky. Here's a documentary on the pride of Wales himself, if you're interested.

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