Are the top 3 heavyweights of all time Muhammad Ali, Lennox Lewis and Oleksandr Usyk

He has a much better résumé and career in general than Fury

And prime Klitschko stops Fury in the first half of the fight.

 

Marciano, Foreman, Liston?
Wlad is thr second best fighter in his family, so i would have Vitali ahead.

H2H I can see Usyk being a difficult opponent for any HW in history but I can't put him in the top 3.

 

Rubbish Prime Klitscko is 2011ish and his best win is probably pushing over Povetkin in 2013. Absolutly useless and his resume sucks. Fury beats Wlad 5 days a week and four times on the weekend. Usyk beats him in his sleep.

 

That Version of Pov would have stopped Fury quicker and more brutally than he stopped Whyte.

Given your long litany of prognostications in advance of the Fury - Usyk fight, and and how the two Fury - Usyk fight, actually turned out, I think we can safely ignore your idle, wishful, speculations on this matter.

 

Louis
Ali
Holmes

 

I think ranking Usyk largely depends on how you compare his combined career at CW and HW.

Honestly, in some ways it's easier to compare him to the old greats because like them, he's faced a wide range of what we would classically consider HW.

The modern CW would have been part of the HW division, and Usyk has shown himself to be the best CW and HW of his era.

If we took for example Joe Louis, he would also be the best of those divisions for his era (his era HW equals modern HW + CW).

There is something to be said for the challenge of facing some of the great fast, skilled, smaller HWs of the past. Fury is a good example of how fast smaller guys can trouble some of the huge SHWs.

If we ignore the name of the divisions and just look at the top competition he faced in the same weight range as guys like Ali and Louis, Usyk's record as a classic HW looks greater.

Anyway, I want to see how he finishes his career before considering him as a top 3 heavyweight.

 

Usyk has fought 5 HWs in his life

3 of them were given a rematch

None of them are anywhere near any type of ATG list in terms of accomplishments

You can make a case for him H2H but once upon a time you all did the same for Fury and Joshua too and look how they fared when faced with real adversity and resistance......

 

You're talking like rematches don't count. They certainly do count. 5 & 3 = 8
Beating future HOF's Fury and AJ twice as the undersized underdog, certainly adds to his legacy, two wins over one top opponent is double the praise.

(plus it's arguable you could include his WSB heavyweight wins, and it's also arguable you could say the cruiserweights he beat were the heavyweight size from back in the day)

 

You can’t have any top list of Heavyweights without Louis Holmes Johnson being on it,you also have to factor in the times when Johnson and to a lesser extent Louis fought .

 

I’ve got a top heavyweight ranking on my phone, this is my top 20 since 1960 and their best performance:

1. Muhammad Ali (Williams)
2. Larry Holmes (L Spinks)
3. Oleksandr Usyk (Dubois 2)
4. Evander Holyfield (Bowe 2?)
5. Sonny Liston (Patterson 1)
6. Lennox Lewis (Rahman 2)
7. George Foreman (Norton)
8. Mike Tyson (Spinks)
9. Joe Frazier (Ali 1)
10. Riddick Bowe (Holyfield 1)
11. Tyson Fury (Wilder 2)
12. Vitali Klitschko (Williams)
13. Buster Douglas (Tyson)
14. Jimmy Young (Foreman)
15. Ken Norton (Ali 1)
16. Wladimir Klitschko (Haye)
17. Tim Witherspoon (Smith 1)
18. Jerry Quarry (Shavers)
19. Chris Byrd (Thunder)
20. Floyd Patterson (Johansson 2)

 

Yeah maybe but isn’t 54 year old Wlad still Furys best ever career win? So saying Wlad is totally useless don’t exactly do Furys credibility as a fighter any good either