Are there any ATG heavyweights that actually fought each other at both their peaks?

Fitzsimmons vs Jeffries
Schmeling vs Louis 1

 

Oops

Well, How about Ali vs Liston 1, Or Frazier 1, Or Foreman?

 

I don't think Liston was in his prime against Clay and even against Patterson. Maybe we can say he was in the latter stages of his prime but definitely not peak. As for Ali, he was a wee bit past prime against Frazier and Foreman. But like I stated with Liston he wasn't at his peak. Of course the case could be made that the Ali in the early 70's was able to adapt better with older age than most heavies.

Pinklon Thomas against Tim Witherspoon would be a good example to the thread's question. Spoon had only lost to Holmes and Pinkie's only blemish was a draw with Coetzee.

 

liston wasn't prime vs patts.


not that it mattered, he'd have smoked any of his contemporaries bar ali.

 

Sam Langford probably met prime versions of McVea and Jeanette, in his own prime.

You could make a case for Corbett and Fitzsimmons.

Foreman Norton is one of the better calls so far.

 

Co*ney and Norton are ATG's?

 

Holyfield Bowe 1
Tyson Spinks
Frazier Foreman

All undefeated as well.

 

Fitz was past prime when he defended against Jeffries.
Schmeling was past his best when he beat an overconfident ,****y Louis.

 

Sensible choices which makes a refreshing change.:hey

 

Maybe Spinks was the best heavyweight he could've been in 1988. Maybe Tyson made him look bad. Definitely up for debate.

 

Even more up for debate is whether or not Spinks is an ATG (at heavyweight).

 

Tucker vs Douglas (Tucker was not very young but was still inexperienced @ top pro level)

James Smith vs Tim Witherspoon (Witherspoon iz klows 2 ATG )

Holyfield vs Douglas (bat Douglas mait hed bin past it bay zen)

McCall vs Lewis (sainc most (bat not mi) consider Lewis n ATG HW)

Tua vs Ibeabuchi (Ibeabuchi mait hed bikam n ATG)

 

Good post, and even with some of those excuses can be made. Norton was having major out of the ring problems going into the fight with Foreman (that's not good), he actually boxed pretty well in the 1st round though.

Holyfield thought very little of Bowe and even made him quit during a sparring session that they had prior.

Holmes beat C00ney at C00ney's best but ****ey really isn't an all-time great.

As for Patterson, I think he was able to survive better... later in his career, but Liston still beats him every time.

This just further solidifies your original statement.

How about these-

Baer KO Carnera

Charles W15 Walcott (twice)

Walcott KO Charles

Walcott W15 Charles (although many feel Charles won)

Johansson KO Patterson

Patterson KO Johansson (twice)

Ali (Clay until the next day) KO Liston (I don't think Liston was washed up)

Ali W15 Terrell

Frazier KO Quarry (not lineal though and Quarry wasn't great IMO)

Frazier KO Ellis

Frazier W15 Ali (almost lol)

Foreman KO2 Frazier (some claim Frazier was not at his best though)

Lewis W12 Tua (although Tua was overweight IMO and not really considered an ATG)