Are there any fighters in history you think could beat a prime Roy Jones?

So Dariusz was past his best, but Roy wasn't?

Regarding your other point, it's comedy gold.

The perfect art of trolling.

I'll let the others bite.

 

Gonzalez Michalczewski was a few weeks before Tarver Jones 1, Michalczewski was coming off a knockout of Derrick Harmon earlier that year, so I'm not sure how past prime he was considered to be when he fought Gonzalez. That was the 14th consecutive stoppage for Michalczewski since decisioning Virgil Hill back in 1997, so it wasn't like Michalczewski wasn't getting knockouts or anything. We'd need to really pinpoint when Roy Michalczewski was being talked about, I'm guessing the early 2000s before Roy went up to HW to fight Ruiz. That's not that far removed from when he fought Gonzalez, and I doubt Michalczewski's slowing down out of prime was as visible as Roy's was post Ruiz.

As far as Jones vs Calzaghe, Roy built himself back up to an extent between 2006 and 2008, and early on in that fight he was having his way with Calzaghe. However Roy suffered a pretty severe cut in that fight that affected his performance. There's no doubt that both Roy and Calzaghe were past it when they fought each other. It was Calzaghe's last fight, and it wasn't the best versions of either guy. 5-10 years earlier, it would have been a very interesting fight, prime for prime I'd favor Roy because he had more devastating punching power and more hand speed and he was just more skilled than Calzaghe. But Calzaghe as a swarmer would give Roy problems, Calzaghe I think is probably better and would have been tougher for him to beat than arguably any of Roy's other opponents, but you got to remember that prime Roy was a freak athlete and I think would have figured Calzaghe out. It would have been a great fight prime for prime, though, but even when they met in 2008 Roy still had his moments, even with the bad cut still was keeping many of those late rounds close. Without the bad cut Roy got, I think it would have been a lot closer but Calzaghe still probably edges it with by out voluming Roy. Calzaghe seemed really hurt by that knockdown in the first round and it took a few rounds for him to get into the fight.

 

I wish we could have seen Roy fight Tarver in 2000. I honestly think that Roy requested that eliminator between Tarver and Harding to get under Tarver's skin.

Del Valle was decent and he'd sparred a fair few rounds with Roy beforehand. That knockdown was caused by a good punch, but Roy lost his footing on the canvas what was wet.

I agree with you regarding Tarver and Johnson. Tarver beat him fairly, but I think they were on a similar level. Yes, Tarver was much fresher. He'd only fought about 22 times when he fought Roy.

 

You have to be completely ignorant to boxing or just plain delusional to believe any version of Calzaghe would stand a chance vs Jones even remotely near his prime. A guy who's best win was vs completely washed up Jones and Hopkins and then the ultra hype machine Jeff lacey who lost to anyone relevant. Who did Calazghe ever beat to make anyone think he would stand a chance vs legit elites? The guy wouldn't even leave his own country to fight until it was safe to spar with 2 old men! Other than Kessler his entire resume is a complete joke.

 

I could read these all day I love them.

I've just seen that Dominguez fought Valuev.

There must have been a huge disparity in size.

 

Roy Jones was also green against Hopkins. It was early in both their careers. People are talking like Roy fought Hopkins when Roy was fully established. He,d only had one decent win prior to Hopkins a faded Castro himself. The thing with the toney win was toney as well as pretty much everyone Roy faced didn't even have a clue how to deal with him. They couldn't close the gap I know if Toney couldn't do it or Hopkins or a faded McCallum....calzaghe definitely wasn't gonna do it. Calzaghe would be lost against a prime Roy their just on different levels. Joe was good at what he did was effective but he was no master boxer. I,d go as far to say if Joe didn't,t go into his shell he,d have got knocked out against Roy.

I ll tell you the real reason he would have beat all of them...how easy he beat pretty much everyone he ever faced prior to Ruiz. Barring the Griffith's struggle which proved to be a bit of an off night.

Steve Collins and calzaghe would have been out their league against him....its clear to see based on who Roy did beat and how easily he beat them. None of them could close the gap on him.

 

He got his revenge in and out of the ring. Because from what I've read, Roy didn't make a penny from their 2010 rematch.

 

Ha!

Good one.

I always liked Enzo.


I'd never heard of Dominguez before.

He's listed on BoxRec as being 5'9 with a 71" reach.

Valuev is 7'0 with an 85" reach.

 

Collins vs Jones is more of a mystery to me. Collins had a determination about him and a part of me thinks that he may have had what it takes to give a prime Roy his toughest fight.

If you give Collins the home field advantage, with the fight in the U.K. or even in Ireland, I think Roy is in for a long night, but he'd still have his usual speed and athleticism advantage, Collins would be coming forward trying ot cut the ring off. Collins might be out of his league, but we're talking levels. Collins retired in 1997, so realistically the fight would have had to happen in 1996 before Roy moved up to Light Heavyweight. If you take a coming out of retirement Collins vs a post - Montell Griffith 2 RJJ at Light Heavyweight, I think Jones smokes Collins. But you take the version of RJJ that struggled with Griffin in the first fight or a 1996 SMW RJJ vs an active SMW Collins, it's a challenge for Jones because he hadn't really fought anyone with Collins' intensity and determination.

 

Totally agree with this...they we,re on two totally different levels. Kessler was always overrated anyway.

Calzaghe would get embarrassd against Roy. Joe was a pretty good fighter and super effective but against guys that we,rent great anyway. Outside of Kessler his biggest wins we,re old men...eubank. Roy and Hopkins. It was a style that suited him...cause his best attribute was his stamina. The old guys could,t keep up with him. You stick him in with them as young men they,d have made him pay for his basic boxing skills lack of technique. You could,t throw a lot of punches against guys like roy. He,d counter you easier. Regardless tho no one got off on Roy basically because he got in and out so quickly...his timing was also impeccble. No one could tell when he was coming in or not. It was too hard to read. If you could it was too fast to stop. Roy Jones is a nitemare opponent for anyone. And that's why it was him that was avoided a lot more than he avoided anyone. Common sense tells you that.