Are there any good reasons why pro boxing in its current form should not be banned?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Decebal, Nov 25, 2008.


  1. Clearly Cool

    Clearly Cool Active Member Full Member

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    To be honest I wouldn't have been too annoyed if Andrade-Kessler WAS stopped in the later rounds. Not good to take that many clean shots, regardless of chin.
     
  2. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Golf should be banned. Heatstroke up in this mother****er.
     
  3. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    See...that's the difference between you and me! Andrade would have cried murder! if he had been stopped in the Kessler fight. His pride is to fight to the bitter end. That's why people pay to watch him fight. With your version of boxing, only the most skilled fighters would be able to make a living. The rest would fall by the wayside. Some of the best professional boxers out there would not have the chance to reach the top. They'd be stopped before they'd have the chance to win the fight the only way they can. Very unfair and silly.


    P.s. I edited my previous post...please read it again.:good
     
  4. Clearly Cool

    Clearly Cool Active Member Full Member

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    Thats crazy, never knew thet did bets on a rnd-by-rnd basis. None the less the fight wasn't stopped because of the danger of Malinaggi being stopped, it was stopped to prevent ANY further damage to Malinaggi. Considering how he was boxing there was no point to let it continue. He would just be taking more punishment when it was crystal clear who was going to win.

    Good stoppage.
     
  5. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I have not convinced you, I see. I will stop trying now.
     
  6. Clearly Cool

    Clearly Cool Active Member Full Member

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    Not really, the situation doesn't come up all that often. Most professional boxers have more than 5 KOs in that stage of their career and usually a guy will always try to win. Holding is fine if your in a spot of bother, but if you are in a fight excessively holding to make it to the end you don't deserve to lose by decision. You didn't fight 12 rounds.

    Good stoppage.
     
  7. Clearly Cool

    Clearly Cool Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah I could go forever. To be honest I don't feel THAT strongly about it, I just felt like hearing the counter argument.
     
  8. billyk

    billyk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    OK fair point but I don't think Paulie was even gonna stop holding and start trying to hit for long enough to notice if Hatton got gassed. Wouldn't do the sport much good overall either if that was a ploy that fighters could adopt too readily. 'I'll do **** all to make a fight for 11 rounds and hope my opponent didn't train hard enough to go the distance, even when he's not getting hit'.

    Never seen Peter Buckley fight so I don't know if he's the same but the whole point with Paulie is that he wasn't throwing punches because he himself didn't seem to think he had the chin to stand up to Hatton for long, not after he got hit in the 2nd. That's why he wasn't throwing punches, cause he wouldn't put himself in the position where he could be hit. Even though what he was doing more or less gaurenteed he would lose.

    It's practically like hoping Hatton twists his ankle chasing him round the ring, or gets disqualified for losing his gumshield or something.

    Hearns got knocked out early by Hagler but still emerged with credit for the way he fought, albeit ony for 8 mins or so.
     
  9. crespo21

    crespo21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    good question. but that question could also be aimed at sky diving, formula 1 racing, base jumping etc. where does it end.
     
  10. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    well your not trying to beat up the air in sky diving
    your not trying to hurt the speed barrior
    and your most defintly not trying to kill the ground in base jumping



    what makes it a tough moral judgement is that a dangeorous job is one thing....the other is making you become a destroyer. do you know in martial arts, not just boxing but other contact marital arts (like taekwondo, muay thai, karate ect). lets say your a proffesional boxer.someone on the street comes into you bubble and asks for your phone, wallet and shoes and you instead give them a left hook to the jaw. you drag them to the police station to turn them in...bring a few witnesses of course. when it gets to court the defendant can appeal to the use of lethal weapons becuase you used a technique that could of been fatal. he will get tried and judged but you can get into major trouble.

    my friend was in a pub in brentford who does taekwondo. a guy starts wailing on him. somthing to do with sitting in his seat or some ego thing, some poor excuse to have a fight. charlie was having none of it. so a spinning back kick lands on the chin =:dead.

    anyways he was told by police later truthly but sympathetic to him,that had he was in posession of a dangerous weapon. and if you had hurt him severly you could be sentenced longer than a guy who threw a chair.


    point is peeps that boxing is made to produce a ko. (i said before i regard them as forced accidents but still...) and such you need to be able to deliver a knockout punch to get this. but the difference between a ko, a dud or a fatal punch is almost niether except the after affect.

    you are in the ring to beat people up. that is not a sport and not a showing of athleticism. it is entertainment and entertainment includes "im a celebrity get me out of here"



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  11. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Why not ban anything dangerous in general? Let's all take some soma, forget the roots and struggle of real life and live in a state of false pacificism?

    I don't know. It doesn't seem rational to me to ban sporting events just for being dangerous, as they all can be fatal. You'd have to ban virtually every physical sport, especially such as motor racing.
     
  12. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    i tthink banning dangerous activities is a bit much but the rally call for bannign boxing is that boxing harms the other boxer. you are actually looking to ko cut and beat him up.
     
  13. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    my answer to that is that life is not just about physical health.

    there was a post a few months ago about a boy about 13 who was fighting and looking good doing it.

    if you think how a teenager's potential can be literally destroyed by getting bullied at school because all his confidence has been taken from him and he doesn't know where to stand in a crowd even - then i think people should stop making 'moral' judgmenets about what is good for someone.

    people need to test themselves in the physical world as well as the intellectual, spiritual or any other you want to mention.
     
  14. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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