Are there any middleweights that could have beaten all fabulous 4?

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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    McClellan would have a shot here, As would Ketchel and Fitsimmons, I wouldn't pick them tho, they'd just have a shot.

    The real contenders are Monzon, Robinson, Burley and Charles

    I don't like Jones to make 12 without being KO'ed by Hagler and I don't like Hopkins to outbox Hearns,

    I've excluded Greb because There's no footage
     
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  2. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    To me the only question is who can beat Hagler! SRL Duran and Hearns are all great but they are not going to beat many ATG prime MW’s.
     
  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Greb, SRL and Monzon are the first names that should come to mind. You can throw Jones, Jr. in there also but we don't have as deep a resume on him as we do the others. And while Hagler is the biggest mountain to climb on that list, I do wonder how Leonard's speed and top level skills would bother Jones, Jr. I think they could be more to cope with than he had when he went up in weight. We never saw Jones up against someone as fast (or dare I say, faster) than he was.
     
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  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    I actually pick Hearns to be Hopkins, by decision due to height and his ring generalship. And that's why I ruled Hopkins out
     
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  5. Hookandjab

    Hookandjab Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Robinson, Greb, Walker and Monzon would have beaten all four, imo.
     
  6. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That is your right, but I respectfully disagree. Hopkins comfortably and perhaps even stops him late for me
     
  7. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Fair enough, and anyone could KO Hearns with a flush power punch
     
  8. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Hagler beats Monzon, so I'm not picking him. I also think he beats SRR, so that eliminates him. For me, I'd pick Roy to do the trick
     
  9. George Crowcroft

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    Really? I think Roy loses quite comfortably to Hagler, much worse than Monzon or Robinson, whilst admittingly up op the cards at the time of the stoppage
     
  10. JackSilver

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    Nunn could do it though Hearns could be the one that would give him his hardest challenge of the four.
     
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  11. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I'm saying no.
    Just dont see it. Even though Duran was far past it at MW and Leonard was pretty shot it's too big of a stretch for me to imagine someone beating all 4 of these guys. They each bring something too diverse too the table.
     
  12. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    McCallum was better at light middle, Hearns and Hagler would have beaten Graham in far more convincing fashion than McCallum did and Ray, Marvin and Hearns would have toyed with Collins who gave Mike problems, I feel McCallum would have had a better chance of beating Ray and Hearns at 154 despite Ray being quicker at that weight I just feel Mike wa azwesome at 154 and his punches had more snap on them, Duran v McCallum at 154 would have been a classic, Roberto wasn`t as effective at middle.
     
  13. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I feel Tommy and Marvin would have beaten Nunn, because all Nunn had was speed and reach and both these guys had a great reach on them which helped their brilliant offensive tools.
     
  14. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Well said, each fighters style meant not one could be pinned down, as they all covered eachother's weakness. They're kind of boxing's Power Rangers
     
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  15. Loudon

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    Roy at 25 beats all of them.

    I'd give Robbo a shot, as well as McCallum.

    I could see Hopkins beating them all.

    Toney at his absolute best would have a shot.

    We've never seen Greb, but we know about the guys who he beat.