Are there any pure boxers you'd take over a peak Donald Curry at Welterweight?

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  1. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Agreed. I've said this before. At times he should have gotten on his bicycle and worked behind the jab while on the move. Especially around the perimeter of the ring. Instead he would stand his ground. I think he was perhaps too confident in his mid-range and inside game. While he did have a brilliant jab, it should have been used on the move more often. It would have broadened his arsenal and options even further. His hands-up defense could only limit oncoming artillery landing, not shut it out entirely. This is where his feet would have came in handy.
     
  2. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well said. I can particularly see this being a problem for Don against a fighter like Griffith. Curry has all the tools to outbox Griffith, but I bet Griffith would still find a way to win because Curry will refuse to move more than he should.
     
  3. Ezzard

    Ezzard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pretty much agree. I think these 3 would beat him...

    One thing. I was once told by a guy in the boxing media that Curry had an innovative way of making weight. He was instructed by some top kind of scientist type... Anyway, this is why his power actually seemed to increase at Welterweight. He was getting bigger and stronger but still making the weight. The problem for me with the weight draining issue is that (1) I'm a big Honeyghan fan (there, I admit it) and (2) if it was just about weight issues then what happened to the rest of his career...

    I always thought Curry's style was perfect for a swarmer who would not stand off him and who could give and take.
     
  4. mr. magoo

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    My obvious pick would be a prime Ray Leonard at welterweight.
     
  5. JohnThomas1

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    I think many see him as a boxer/puncher more so than a "pure" boxer. Regardless he'd beat Curry in a very good competitive fight IMO.
     
  6. 80s champs

    80s champs Active Member Full Member

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    How would Prime Curry do against Welter Hearns?
     
  7. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Curry was better inside than Hearns. And thats the core of the problem for him. He'd get knocked out trying to get there.
     
  8. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    True.
     
  9. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Let's not bring Leonard and Hearns into it, I asked for a specific type. I didn't say "Is there any Welterweight in the history of boxing that could beat a peak Donald Curry?"

    There have been some good answers here.

    I personally would probably favor all 3 of the more all around stylists like Griffith, Gavilan, and Rodriguez, but among pure boxers I wouldn't favor Benitez, and Whitaker/Graham are close calls. I'd give Curry the edge over Graham, the Whitaker bout being 50/50.
     
  10. teeto

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    The first who came to my mind was Napoles, but that depends on whether he is excluded form the criteria because of his versatility as a banger. I personally dont think he should be excluded, it was really all skill with him. But it does say lighter hitters, so maybe Hearns? Kiddin! Probably Whitaker, not sure though.
     
  11. natonic

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    It seems the consensus likes Gavilan, Griffith, Rodriguez. I think I agree. I'm surprised nobody mentioned De La Hoya. I'm not saying he beats Curry, but I think it's a close fight. I think more highly of Curry, but stylistically I think Oscar could give him problems. I just don't think Oscar would be a willing participant in the in-fighting. He'd be boxing and moving the whole fight. I say no knockout either way in this one so it would be a pretty close decision either way. Any thoughts on this one?
     
  12. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Donald Curry easily makes my top 10 favourite fighters of all-time. Probably at the bottom half. Other fighters had better longevity, durability, and were simply greater. But when it comes to all-round boxing skills at his best, Curry ticks the boxes for me.
     
  13. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Curry would beat DLH pretty comfortably.Not a big Oscar fan though.

    Tito would give him more problems despite his one-dimensional nature imo.
     
  14. Robbi

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    I think De La Hoya has the ability to lay his gloves on Curry more often than Trinidad. He's got the combinations, jab, and ring generalship. But the crucial factor for me is that Trinidad would really damage Curry inside and at mid-range, although he'd be taking a few himself. De La Hoya got off with more ease than Trinidad, and also had a better jab. He rattled off 3-4 punch flurries.

    It's a terrible match-up for Curry when I think about it based on the styles. Trinidad wasn't a free flowing puncher, as he relied on pin-point punches a bit like Curry himself. But the difference is that Trinidad landed heavy artillery with almost everything he threw. Curry on the other hand was sharp-shooter.

    De La Hoya's chin would have no problem when it comes to taking Curry's punches. Different matter for Trinidad, who might well visit the canvas during the early rounds.


    Trinidad KO5.

    De La Hoya, 50/50.
     
  15. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    If we were taking Curry at his best I might favor him over Trinidad. Tito has a lot more trouble getting set with his own shots than Curry did. Everyone's making Curry out to be some kind of fighter who has difficutly getting off if the pace is not exactly as he wants it. I don't buy that at all. He was very precise and calculated, but not limited. I think he'd get off on Tito far more often than not, and his movement was quite efficient at times, enough to hold off Tito (who never had the best footwork) when combined with his offensive arsenal and punch variety.

    I do think Tito would be a worse matchup for him than De La Hoya though, given Tito's power and ability to rip off vicious combinations in the instances where the fight would be held in close quarters. Curry would always be at risk there moreso than the outside given Curry's durability issues, even though he was a better technical in-fighter than Tito. Against Oscar the pace would more or less favor his style, and I think he was a more precise puncher than Oscar, a better in-fighter, and at least as powerful, if not moreso.