Are there people that rank Mike Tyson above Evander Holyfield?

I rank Tyson over Holyfield as I prefer his short but incendiary rise and domination to Holyfield's lower level longevity. Both are great in their own ways.

 

I rank Tyson above Holyfield. They fought after Tyson got out of prison, he sucked then. Tyson on 1988 is better than Holyfield.

 

Taking in Holyfield's Cruiserweight dominance plus his reigns as heavyweight champ,I'd rate him above Tyson. But by Evander's career soley at the heavier poundage,I'd put Tyson first. Far more dominant resume.

 

I'm not particularly bothered either way. I think a good argument for either man being ahead can be made.

Tyson was far more dominant, but Holy beat a still very good Tyson twice, and may (Not entirely convinced) have done the same in '91.

 

The basic breakdown for me is resume + longevity vs dominance. Throw in the actual H2H results we have, and I feel confident in saying Holyfield's the greater fighter. Mike was something else, of course, and depending on your criteria I could see a reasonable case for him. It just isn't really there on mine.

 

Very well-stated. Both arguments are good, I just feel Holyfields are a bit better, and its his h2h wins that set him over the edge.

Mike was a world champion, not yet shot, and Holyfield was the one on the fade when they fought. Evander's two wins over Tyson ARE meaningful, period, and his edge when the two are compared.

 

prime tyson beats holyfield but overall evander probably edges it .

 

I rate Tyson above Holyfield.

Evander was very inconsistant, even in some of his wins, just look at the gimmie Bert Cooper or Alex Stewart fights. Also IMO with no fan man entering in the Bowe rematch he looses that one too.

When Tyson was on he was on, period, in his reign of terror he took on all comers and CONVINCINGLY either KTFO them or won loopsided decisions plus don't take a **** or get another drink because the fight could have been over when you came back......

I give him credit for defeating a very faded Tyson twice but in all reality in his other signature fights against ACTIVE prime championship fighters, not sitting in the can for a few years, Bowe and Lewis, he is really 1-4........and 1-1 against a chinney LThwt..........I don't count the Ruiz fights because he was truly done by then.

 

Well, there's no doubt in my mind Tyson was ready to really pour it on in the first fight. He had his best round by far in the 5th, connecting on an array of punches, throwing combos, very aggressive and undaunted by the first four of frustrating grappling. He comes out for the 6th and starts the same way. It's as if Evander thought to himself 'I better snuff this **** out' then came the headbutt and cut. Followed by a low blow that had Tyson shaken up, then the off balance KD. All within moments.

Had that even been 1991 Tyson in there (think Ruddock wars), **** wouldve gotten grimey. He sure as hell wouldnt be looking at the referee.

 

That's the funny thing with Holyfield...at times, when he was expected to win big or was a huge favourite, he looked less than stellar.
For example, he nearly came a cropper against Cooper where Coop was brought in just to be an opponent, and he looked very ordinary against Czyz as well. He didn't set the world alight in his second fight with Stewart either.

Yet, when an underdog or expected to lose, he rose to the occasion. I'm sure the different levels of motivation played a huge part in that, as well as the fact that certain sportsmen just enjoy the underdog status and I personally think Evander was one of those.

 

Love him to death, but yeah that's the Roberto Duran treatment if you will. I dont know that Holyfield approaches that level though: In terms of both the wins and mulligans alike.

 

I can see a case for either 2bh.

I use to be a big hater of Holyfield, for obvious reasons, but recently ive come to admire the man and become great fan.

But Holyfield is kinda inconsistent, i forgive him for losing to Bowe, but he should not really have lost against a guy like Moorer, who i dont really rate that high 2bh.

I pick Tyson to beat any version of Mooorer with relative ease. I also pick Tyson over Bowe too. But thats another story.

Tyson gets a lot of sh*t for his losses and some deservedly so, but when it comes to Evander, its all swept under the carpet and theres always some medical excuse.

But you cant argue with the guy, he has a win over Bowe, 2 over Tyson and a draw with Lewis.

 

This. Although I've been over it for quite a while.

May as well. They're linked pretty much forever.

 

Could go either way. Wins over the better quality of oppo goes to Holyfield(Moorer, Foreman, Qawi, prime Bowe, and Tyson himself). Dominance goes to Holy. I'd go with Holyfield. Greatest CW of all time and went up to HW to have most of his career and best fights at. Miss both, legends and glad they fought and were willing to face each other though it was late but still huge wins for Holy. Miss Lewis too but boxing goes on and the HW division will heat up again eventually.

 

Great post. I too was a Holy/Lewis hater and Tyson jocksniffer but after time I've grown to appreciate all three of them equally and am just glad they made the 80's/90's a great time for boxing. Legends and deservingly so.

BTW I didn't know guys get credited for Draws lol. In the second fight Holy did put up a great effort so I'll give him that much.