Are there people that rank Mike Tyson above Evander Holyfield?

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  1. MrOliverKlozoff

    MrOliverKlozoff The guy in shades Full Member

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    Tyson's ahead for me and I think he'd have smashed Bowe in his prime.
     
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Neck and neck all the way. All the arguments for and against are fantastic.

    Holyfield beat better guys. Tyson achieved more in his career.

    If ever two guys belonged in the same hw tier, it's these two.
     
  3. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holyfield clearly. Although it's close Holyfield H2H would beat Tyson IMO. Holyfield has the bigger wins and Bowe was the only person to beat a prime Holyfield. For those foolish fans that say Moorer did then they DKSAB. Boxrec doesn't show the fact that Holyfield was nearly having a heart attack in the ring and all the fair weather fans just see it as Moorer MD Holyfield. Tyson doesnt have that one defining win either. Spinks was a good win but hardly compares to Bowe, Tyson himself x2, Moorer, Foreman and Douglas who beat a 'slightly past prime' Tyson.

    In the argument with Lewis I feel he goes just above Holyfield purely due to the depth in Lewis resume. Lewis > Holyfield > Tyson
     
  4. FlyingFrenchman

    FlyingFrenchman Active Member Full Member

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    Holyfield went 18-0 (14) overall, 6-0 (5) in CW World Title Fights, and 2-0 (1) vs. Hall of Famer Dwight Qawi prior to moving up to HW. What Holyfield did at CW was pretty much on par with what Tyson did at HW... as a matter of fact Holyfield was Ring Magazine's Fighter of the Year in 1987. Holyfield also beat Carlos DeLeon KO8 and Ossie Ocasio KO11 among others at CW.

    He moved up to HW and won his next 10 fights. During this stretch he went 4-0 (2) in HW World Title Fights, and 2-0 vs. Hall of Famers George Foreman and Larry Holmes. He was now 28-0 (22) overall, 10-0 (7) in World Title Fights, and 4-0 (1) vs. Hall of Famers. He had fought undefeated for 8 years and was now 30 years old.

    He did a lot more than this but this alone should put him above many fighters.
     
  5. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    Tyson won many of his fights in a more dominating and brutal fashion... that's what people remember about Tyson. He beat Hall of Famer (LHW) Michael Spinks in 91 seconds. He beat Carl Williams in 93 seconds. He stopped Trevor Berbick in 2. He stopped Tony Tubbs in 2 rounds. He beat Holmes in 4... Holmes had not fought in 2 years or won a fight in 3 though. He beat a bunch of bums on the way up in brutal fashion. These things don't make him better than Holyfield IMO.
     
  6. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good people are so short sighted. Because Tyson did something out of his prime it only matters if he wins, whereas it doesn't matter if he loses and dis credit whoever beat him

    Hell, even when he lost in his prime it doesn't matter and Douglas gets lucky. Then suddenly he wasn't prime.
     
  7. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    People place a premium on dominance. I dont think anybody is letting Tyson off the hook here.
     
  8. CocoonOfHorror!

    CocoonOfHorror! LONG-TIME LURKER! Full Member

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    Holyfield lost fighting better guys. Who dominates like Tyson with Holy's competition? Really! Holyfield deserves to be ranked higher. He earned it.
     
  9. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    Tyson was more iconic. If you see his prime (or his great defense years) from 86-89 I give him the nod. Whole career I give to Evander.