Are these 4 the best in the last 20 yrs ????

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Bill Butcher, May 1, 2009.


  1. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    You see this is why Floyd haters can never give a proper analysis of his career. They all believe that his career started in his 4th weight class, they forget that he fought 25 of his 39 fights below 135. Forget that he dusted off guys like Corrales, Castillo, Carlos Hernandez, Genaro Hernandez, Jesus Chavez, basically the whos who of fighters in the lower weight classes. Its sad really.

    Btw, Marquez on fight night is only 4lbs lighter and 1 inch shorter the Mayweather. Little Marquez. :rofl

    So Hopkins beating welters in Tito and De La Hoya, drastically outside of their comfort zones, Tito fading, Oscar fading, is the same as beating the number 2 guy in your division in Corrales and then moving up a weight class and beating the number 1 lightweight in the world eh? Using your stupid logic, Marquez is a great fight for Floyd. Considering that the jump from 154-160 is about the same as the jump in weight from 135-144. But of course you hold different standards for Floyd which is just a testament to how great a fighter he is.
     
  2. Gonzarelli

    Gonzarelli Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You Floyd fans remind of the little kids who think a brand new shiny penny is worth more than an old beat-up quarter.

    Floyds undefeated record is not so impressive when you consider that most of those fights(after Castillo) were cherry picked and that his biggest win was a close victory over an over-the-hill DLH, who by the way
    trumps PBF's resume any which way( except for the undefeated part).

    Fighters like DLH, Trinidad, Hopkins, PAC and Mosley, etc. have loses on their records cause they dared to take challenges!
    SOmething PBF hardly ever did.
     
  3. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Being skillful is the only what Floyd have, no charisma,
    no real fans, no heart of boxer just love for the money.
     
  4. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sorry dude, I thought you knew, that's just how it goes. The same dipshits who say Hoya lost all his biggest fights also happen to forget the divisions he fought in before his last couple of years at welterweight and all the great fighters that he did beat. Double standard from the Floyd fans?
     
  5. Danny_Rand

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    :lol: Once again nothing counts outside of the weight Floyd fought 90% of his career in. Apparently all that matters is his resume above 135. Forget that he virtually cleaned out 130. That he beat the best at 135. Tell me dope. How did Floyd cherry pick the lineal champion at 147? How is it Floyds fault that he couldnt get a fight with Kosta Tszyu, that Mosley declined to fight him with a tooth ache and that Judah lost his head against Baldomir. Tell me moron, how is it Floyds fault that De La Hoya picked the weight, picked the gloves, picked the ring, and picked the venue? Tell me how Hatton who is still in the P4P top 10 and who is considered the best fighter in the world currently at 140 who on his night can give anyone fits is a cherry picked fight.

    Floyd haters I swear. Its like you just started following boxing 2 years ago.
     
  6. Gonzarelli

    Gonzarelli Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What part of thie "after Castillo" comment was too difficult for you to understand.

    You nuthuggers only read what you want to see. And you're still surprised when everyone accusses you of being extremely biased.:lol:

    Take your blinders off my friend!
     
  7. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree with this wholeheartedly. ^

    A comment for Danny Rand again; I do see the natural talent of Mayweather and agree that he is a supreme boxer but this is an example of my dislike for the guy. He was obviously always faking his retirement (in my opinion in order to avoid the welters) and I won't even go into that. Now since his retirement we have a new p4p#1 in Pacman. If Floyd wanted (and he already knew and planned out his return before the Hatton fight was made) he could have made the biggest fight in the history of the sport. Him coming back to face the new p4p#1. That **** never happens. The battle of the p4p#1's. You couldn't even dream a bigger fight. Closest I can think of is Ali coming back as ex-champ unfairly stripped of title to fight Fraiser. Instead...well, you get the point.
     
  8. Danny_Rand

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    And what part of you have to take a fighters entire career into account dont you understand? Its very simple. You cant simply eliminate 90% of Floyds career because you dont like the guy and want to see him fight guys 20lbs heavier then him because you know its the only way he could be beaten. It doesnt work like that son. I notice how you had nothing to say about Mosley declining to fight Floyd or De La Hoya seeking the fight with Floyd out and having complete control over the particulars. You have nothing intelligent to contribute and display your pitiful lack of boxing knowledge at every turn. :hi:
     
  9. Danny_Rand

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    So you are saying tht Floyd is now avoiding Pacquiao? :lol: Who isnt he avoiding? Obviously the Marquez fight is a tune up for what many believe a fight with Pacquiao in the fall. Floyd wouldnt be coming back to fight Marquez after 2 years if he didnt have big plans to follow up.
     
  10. Gonzarelli

    Gonzarelli Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ah, that old standby.:lol:
     
  11. Danny_Rand

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    Still nothing to say about Mosley turning down the fight against Floyd. Pathetic.

    "Buh buh floyd was a cherry picker" :rofl
     
  12. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I am saying a fighter with a low risk/high reward mentality had to have weighed all options, a legendary fight in which he comes out of retirement to face new p4p#1 would be one option, that is if his people are any good at their jobs.
     
  13. Gonzarelli

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    What are you talking about, that's ancient history. You know, Like FLoyd ducking Margarito to fight Baldomir.

    And speaking of pathetic, What about the fact that Mosley called Mayweather out right after his victory over Margarito but Floyd feigned a hearing problem that ironically healed the minute the much smaller JMM called him out.:lol:
     
  14. Danny_Rand

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    I just rewatched the Marquez vs Pacquiao II fight, and the only thing I could conclude was, Pacquiao is the better athlete, Marquez is the better boxer. So in reality I dont believe there is that much seperating the 2.
     
  15. Danny_Rand

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    Thats no surprise. You dont seem to remember Floyds career below 140, infact its amazing how you remember to dress yourself in the mornings. Who knows what constitutes ancient history to you if 4 years ago is ancient history.

    Atleast Floyd gained the lineal title, 8 million dollars plus PPV revenue and didnt get himself embroiled in a contract with Arum which would have basically made Arum the sole promoter of his next 3 fights. What did Mosley get by refusing Floyd? Luis Collazo lol? Next time Mosley should pick his masters more carefully.

    There you go with the much smaller ****. Tell me dope, what is it that you are struggling with? Marquez is 144 on fight night. Floyd is 148. Marquez is 5'7 Floyd is 5'8. How is Marquez "much smaller" :-(

    If Mosley wanted a pay day, he should have accepted the fight when Floyd wanted it.