Are these the top 5 fighters since Ray Leonard ?

I never put Chavez at 1 & Pea at 2 (someone`s name had to go 1st since I couldnt decide), I struggle between the 2 - actually leaning towards Whitaker more than JCC recently on the strength of their H2H & showings vs DLH + I have been on a Sweet Pea thing lately, watching all his fights, didnt want to put a definite place in case I changed my mind tho but those 2 are the best right now.... yes... better than Pac.

Ps. Im fine with Holyfield on any list, I said that before :good

 

My statement to that is.... please stop talking wet.... the word unjustifiable is unjustifiable in this case.

Also, FMJ is also a great `weight jumper,` the very thing that has enabled Pacquiao in your mind to be the best fighter since Whitaker (at least Floyd established ATGness at 130, Pac`s name will never be mentioned at ANY weight he has fought at, this MUST be taken into account), Mayweather is a 5 weight legit world champion, has beaten very good fighters & has only been pushed hard twice in 40 fights (of which the DLH fight was a clear win but still difficult for 8 rds)... his skills are superior to Holyfield`s, please dont dispute this.... he is one of the best defensive boxers ever, one of the most accurate & % boxers ever too.

You might not like him & you will no doubt hate him even more after he beats Pacquiao but give credit where credit is due, he has achieved a lot in boxing & is the best pure boxer since Whitaker, you surely must know this **** without me telling you.

:good

 

He also lost to fighters he shouldnt have..... listen, I have 0 probs with anyone having Holy in a list that doesnt include FMJ but its not `unjustifiable` to have Floyd there & not have Holyfield, most people will have Mayweather there or thereabouts, THAT is my point.

I dont understand how Pac can be a few places over Holyfield but its blasphemy to have Mayweather over Holyfield.... most agree that its between Floyd & Pac for the fighter of the era so thats not even a closed book yet, thats what the fight on march is for, to see who is the best, a bit like it was when JCC fought Pea, the winner will be viewed by the majority as the best of an era..... then will Floyd pop up into no2 on Popkins list where Pac is now ?.... I wont hold my breath.

 

Its obvious that you dont like Mayweather but that **** is just gonna distract from what we`re discussing so **** that.

WTF has Roy Jones got to do with anything ?
Is it because I said FMJ is the best pure boxer since Pea ?
Roy had great skills but it was his athletic ability & reflexes that enabled him to pull that **** off in his prime, once he lost those attributes, his technical skills didnt serve him too well did they ?

Mayweather is a more technically skilled boxer than Jones ever was, no doubt in my mind there either.

Ps. as Ive said more than once, Holy on your list & FMJ not is fine with me, just dont talk pish by saying its unjustifiable to have Mayweather there & not Holyfield.... I certainly didnt see a whole lot of Holyfield`s on the lists in the thread so far to make him a lock like you seem to think he is.

Thats all.

 

So you agree then that Mayweather is above Holyfield, cheers mate :good

 

He beat a healthy, focused & determined DLH at his best weight in a fight were DLH gave it one last great effort but was outboxed, good performance since 154 obviously hindered him quite a bit.

The 1st Castillo fight could have gone either way but as you say, zero`s dont mean **** anyway so even if he lost (when injured ?), he won the rematch handilly, 8 rds to 4 & not taking many clean shots is NOT struggling IMO.

In short, every opponent that Mayweather has fought has ultimately proved his inferior.

Your reaching for **** that aint there now with this Castillo/DLH thing... credit were credit is due please, at least Pac makes my list, I dont deny the obvious.

 

Your in the wrong thread then mate, check the thread title.