Are top ten rated Ring Magazine heavyweights with 10 or more losses...history?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Mendoza, Mar 14, 2008.


  1. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    I think the main reason for that is that they simply have very little fights against each other.
     
  2. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The 1982 year end guys yielded up 11.
    Holmes(5)
    Dokes(2)
    Weaver(1)
    Coetzee(1)
    Snipes(1)
    Berbick(1)
    Page
    Cooney
    Thomas
    Cobb
    The bottom four of course fought other top 10 opponents but these are included in a higher rated fighter eg Cobb v Holmes is included in Larry's 5.
     
  3. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1929 14.
    sharkey
    schmeling
    godfrey
    griffiths
    scott
    von porat
    stribling
    risko
    carnera
    campolo
     
  4. Sizzle

    Sizzle Active Member Full Member

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    Not neccessarily.

    If an upcoming fighter loses 10 of his first thirty fights due to poor management/poor motivation, then gets his act together when he fights a top ranked contender, beats them (e.g., Povetkin) and consequently beats two more (Say Ibragimov and Chagaev), he'll be in the top ten despite his previous losses surely.
     
  5. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    An interesting post. I was about to respond with a put down but then realized the accuracy of it. If a fighter pulls off an upset and follows it up with a renewed attitude he of course will get rated. However we feel (know?) that this is unlikely to happen. Why is the question. Are the rated guys now far superior to the rabble or are they so protected as never to give a chance to an underperfprmer? You pick.
     
  6. Marciano Frazier

    Marciano Frazier Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, contenders these days generally have better win-loss averages, but you should know it is ridiculous to try and take that as indicating they are therefore better than their predecessors.
     
  7. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I give all era credit and critique where it is warranted. Old timers were taking on top contenders every month? And that equates to Wlad fighting 10 contenders a year? Sorry, I can not agree with you here.

    Since there are now three champions at heavy, the likelihood of top 20 matchups in a given year might have gone up. I will have to look into it later.

    Gotta run.