Are us fans partially to blame?

U really need to watch the fight Closely. My name execution style has nothing to do with b hop lol. I havent said anything to nuthug b hop im not the one trying to give bernard credit for beating an old roy jones your trying to give calzaghe credit for beatin old roy. lmao

 

Am i really nuthugging Bernard was bernard not 160 in 04? But since u need more clearance. Bernard had to jump up 13 pounds Calzaghe was 168 he had to jump 5 pounds WOW WHAT A JUMP! lmao u are some of the dumbest uk fans ive ever seen.

 

Emmanel and kellerman both said Bernard was landing the cleaner harder shots emmanel even said calzaghe was throwin slap amateur punches lmao he wasnt landing hardly ne of his "slap punches" neither

 

this is the only post you need ever read about the career of bernard hopkins. the following is irrefutable scientific fact



here is bernard hopkins best 6 wins broken down, take away the smoke and mirrors, the hbo and ring magzaine brainwashing and this is what your left with


trinidad
prime weight = welterweight (147)
fought hopkins at middleweight (159)
trinidads record at middleweight or above from hopkins onwards = 2 wins / 3 defeats

winky wright
prime weight - light middleweight (154)
fought hopkins at - 170 lbs
in 57 fights, the hopkins fight was the only fight that wright had weighed over 160 lbs (a full 10lbs difference) :rofl

de la hoya
prime weight - welterweight (147lbs)
fought hopkins at - middleweight (160lbs)
de la hoya only fought twice in his career at middleweight out of 45 fights -1 win / 1 loss - the win was a very debatable decision over eurobum felix sturm

pavlik
prime weight - middleweight (160 lbs)
fought hopkins at - 170 lbs
in 34 fights pavlik had only fought 2 minnions at the beginning of his career at 169. all pavliks fights since hopkins have been at the 160 limit.

tarver
prime weight 175
great 2 weight jump from hopkins and his best win despite tarver being a b-level fighter and going 3 wins / 3 losses from hopkins onwards.

johnson
prime weight -super mid / light heavy (162 to 175)
fought hopkins at - middleweight (160)
johnsons record at 160 + from hopkins onwards - 19 wins / 14 defeats / 2 draws
the defeats have come against people of the level of ottke, woods, shieka, gonzales, harmon, branco, vanderpool, Kiwanuka, sosa :rofl






then throw in hopkins 4 defeats to the only top class fighters he ever fought at a fair weight (jones, calzaghe, and taylor twice) and you get a true reflection of the career of bernard hopkins











"A teleconference was set up in my office in New York for July 30th, 2002, and on the call was myself, Don King who was in the room, Frank Warren and Bernard Hopkins' lawyer, Arnold Joseph. Along with Arnold was a woman named Linda Carter, who was there on behalf of Bernard. We asked Arnold if Bernard wanted to fight Joe Calzaghe and we asked him how much money would he want if he did. The response we got was $3million and the fight would have to take place in the United States. After a little scratching of the head, we said 'Okay, done.' Frank Warren agreed on the spot, Don King agreed and we agreed so as far as we were concerned all parties were singing off the one hymm sheet. Arnold excused himself with Linda and I can only assume it was to call Bernard. Either that day or the next day, they came with a new demand: $6million, double the sum that had been agreed, the deal blew up.....he had then and still has no desire to fight Joe Calzaghe, that much is pretty clear.

Joe gets criticised sometimes for not having fought the big-name Americans, but in this case the fault has never rested with him."

- Jay Larkin, then Showtime TV Network's Senior Vice-President of Sports and Event Programming.

 

So where am I doing that then :huh

 

And they both scored for Calzaghe you fool atsch. Commentators call things different as rounds pass and change dumbass, so if they were making that same comment every round they wouldnt have finished with Joe agead now, would they :nut.
You have to live with the facts. Calzaghe beat Hopkins, live with it and move on

 

More irrelivant **** u didnt watch the fight your merely one of the pro calzaghe ppl who were in the crowd who hate bernards style of winning fights. Again headbanger talking in circles we already dismissed all your bull**** already. You have a very short attention span. Calzaghe didnt become known in america till 06-07 YOU need to live with that calzaghe hadnt done a damn thing to deserve a shot at hopkins and roy jones in early 2000s when they were negotiating to fight eachother. Ofcourse Bernards gonna want the more money he was negotiating with Roy in that time period your stipulation of roy and hopkins ducking calzaghe is weak as **** cal hadnt even come over to america tof ight ne of the compeition there he was only known in the uk so ofcourse hopkins is gonna go for roy whose in his country and was biggest name in boxing. Calzaghe wasnt roy jones jr.

 

Cal had two of his biggest wins in 06-07 hopkins and roy both fought him in 08 take a damn hint cal finnally stepped to the compeition and made name for himself and he got a shot against both and was dropped by both of them in the first round was dropped by an old roy jones jr. Nobody was scared of calzaghe lol

 

nobody even cares about calzaghe now the guy wasnt known to begin with and he fights two oldmen many ppl feel he lost to bernard too whether u like it or not thats what he went out on lol

 

Calzaghe wasnt even on the radar TRinidad was known oscar was a huge star so was roy so ofcourse hopkins is gonna go after those guys instead he made big money in those fights your absolutely dreaming if u think calzaghe was a megastar lol thats pure and utter bologne and one of the dumbest things ive ever heard.

 

You guys dont appear to understand so ill give u some examples. Ricky Hatton CAME OVER TO AMERICA beat urango castilo ect all america had to offer there he got a shot against Mayweather. Lennox Lewis CAME TO AMERICA fought best they had and got number one contendership to fight bowe now bowe ducked him. Point being uk isnt the mainplace for boxing America is whether u like it or not if u wanna be known and fight the best u have to come over to america he wasnt even in roy and bernards weight classes and had not come over to america nobody knew the guy nobody even knows of him now lol they just know of him as the guy who had a close fight with an oldman.

 

But im really tired of this calzaghe stuff all your doing is moving in circles which i got no time for.Pz

 

There was alot of talk back then about Roy never being the same after dropping off the 24lbs (or whateve rit was) of muscle to fight Tarver. He definitely never was the same but more than likely it was just b/c his physical gifts began to diminish. However I remember a friend of mine back then making a funny prediction and kinda just putting it here for pure entertainment value. From what I remember Tarver was generally seen as going to handle Bernard. But not too long before that fight Tarver had beefed up to over 200lbs to play his character in the Rocky Balboa movie. I remember my friend who was a huge RJJ fan saying "now Tarver's going to find out what its like to have to drop all that muscle, Hopkins will kill him".

 

not sure if it was officially a catchweight. according to boxrec though Hopkins weighed 156 and DLH 155.