Are us fans partially to blame?

The MW division was devoid of talent except for Jones, McClellan, Taylor, Reggie Johnson. The only 2 Hopkins faced he got schooled by :yep

So you haven't seen much Tarver then? Its pretty obvious you haven't seen the first Jones-Tarver fight or this fight:

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[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkOMVwkcBXc&feature=related[/ame]

 

More hypocracy your quoting examples of Jones Jr when he was clearly shot and crying like a ***** when someone does the same to Hopkins, except when some dont consider Hopkins shot as his best wins came after :deal

Something makes me think you hate Jones a bit more than BHOPs who you come to the defense of time and again, your obsession with homosexuality is a cause for concern

 

you're blaming technology or what?

The same technology that allows you to whine right now.

 

Yes wins over Prime Toney, Prime Hopkins, Ruiz, Prime Tarver, Virgil Hill, McCallum, Reggie Johnson, yea they mean nothing, all Jones did was beat Vinny Pazienza :nut

 

here is bernard hopkins best 6 wins broken down, take away the smoke and mirrors, the hbo and ring magzaine brainwashing and this is what your left with :deal


trinidad
prime weight = welterweight (147)
fought hopkins at middleweight (159)
trinidads record at middleweight or above from hopkins onwards = 2 wins / 3 defeats

winky wright
prime weight - light middleweight (154)
fought hopkins at - 170 lbs
in 57 fights, the hopkins fight was the only fight that wright had weighed over 160 lbs (a full 10lbs difference) :rofl

de la hoya
prime weight - welterweight (147lbs)
fought hopkins at - middleweight (160lbs)
de la hoya only fought twice in his career at middleweight out of 45 fights -1 win / 1 loss - the win was a very debatable decision over eurobum felix sturm

pavlik
prime weight - middleweight (160 lbs)
fought hopkins at - 170 lbs
in 34 fights pavlik had only fought 2 minnions at the beginning of his career at 169. all pavliks fights since hopkins have been at the 160 limit.

tarver
prime weight 175
great 2 weight jump from hopkins and his best win despite tarver being a b-level fighter and going 3 wins / 3 losses from hopkins onwards.

johnson
prime weight -super mid / light heavy (162 to 175)
fought hopkins at - middleweight (160)
johnsons record at 160 + from hopkins onwards - 19 wins / 14 defeats / 2 draws
the defeats have come against people of the level of ottke, woods, shieka, gonzales, harmon, branco, vanderpool, Kiwanuka, sosa :rofl














then throw in hopkins 4 defeats to the only top class fighters he ever fought at a fair weight (jones, calzaghe, and taylor twice) and you get a true reflection of the career of bernard hopkins :deal

 

I think thats a good summary of yourself, now feel free to revert to being the dumb ass mother****er you've proved yourself to be :thumbsup

 

Roy is the best fighter of the 90's, I thought nobody could beat him during his prime. I think going down sounth of the HW division has something to do with that lost against tarver. That and the fact that he lost his athleticism due to age. Prime Roy Jones Jr was unbeatable.