Are us fans partially to blame?

This :good

 

Yeah I agree that he is overrated to some extend.I agree with you also about Tyson. But Floyd and especially Pac have done enough to be respected.

 

AlisJab is a bit ridiculous, he is not seeing why he is actually one of the reasons why boxing is horrible, his attitude about fighters after they get KO'd.

 

Promoters, cable television, and PPV are to blame.

 

what a ludicorous statement.

larry holmes was one of my favourite fighters and in my atg heavyweight list that i have posted on numerous occasions, holmes has been ranked 3/4 alongside lennox lewis.

so quit the false accusations you nobhead and reply to my earlier post about bernard hopkins (below) that you so conveniantly ignored earlier by deflecting attention away with your false accusation.








here is bernard hopkins best 6 wins broken down, take away the smoke and mirrors, the hbo and ring magzaine brainwashing and this is what your left with :deal


trinidad
prime weight = welterweight (147)
fought hopkins at middleweight (159)
trinidads record at middleweight or above from hopkins onwards = 2 wins / 3 defeats

winky wright
prime weight - light middleweight (154)
fought hopkins at - 170 lbs
in 57 fights, the hopkins fight was the only fight that wright had weighed over 160 lbs (a full 10lbs difference) :rofl

de la hoya
prime weight - welterweight (147lbs)
fought hopkins at - middleweight (160lbs)
de la hoya only fought twice in his career at middleweight out of 45 fights -1 win / 1 loss - the win was a very debatable decision over eurobum felix sturm

pavlik
prime weight - middleweight (160 lbs)
fought hopkins at - 170 lbs
in 34 fights pavlik had only fought 2 minnions at the beginning of his career at 169. all pavliks fights since hopkins have been at the 160 limit.

tarver
prime weight 175
great 2 weight jump from hopkins and his best win despite tarver being a b-level fighter and going 3 wins / 3 losses from hopkins onwards.

johnson
prime weight -super mid / light heavy (162 to 175)
fought hopkins at - middleweight (160)
johnsons record at 160 + from hopkins onwards - 19 wins / 14 defeats / 2 draws
the defeats have come against people of the level of ottke, woods, shieka, gonzales, harmon, branco, vanderpool, Kiwanuka, sosa :rofl














then throw in hopkins 4 defeats to the only top class fighters he ever fought at a fair weight (jones, calzaghe, and taylor twice) and you get a true reflection of the career of bernard hopkins :deal

 

Everytime ive read this masterpiece of a poster, it has sent shivers down my spine at how great and accurate it is. Facts :deal

It makes me laugh how these bias fools discredit Calzaghe for coming up in weight and beating their hero, yet want to see this alledged shadow fight Pascal . Bias.

If it wasnt for the very few ESB greats like Headbanger who pwns minions with ease, and puts them in their place, I wouldnt set foot on this site, for the amount of nationalistic bias on it. Luckily the balance has been restored as Headbanger successfully Pwns Alisjab, making him wilt like sick puppy and putting him back into line.

A note to Alisjab... Your not the first to be destroyed by Headbanger and you wont be the last, so try not to be too hard on yourself

:vonnecunt

wha: Well done for some excellent work again

 

:deal

 

wow, what an absoloute honour it is to recieve such glowing praise from a poster at the peak of his powers, elite esb titan and atg debater bailey atsch

its sometimes hard to keep educating these ignorant minnions. they sit around reading their bias ring magazine comic and have their ears continually open to the delusional brain washing on hbo :dead:dead:dead

i just try to keep it real around this place and deliver cutting edge analysis with the use of irrefutable scienticic facts to back my astute opinions :deal

 

They're being paid to fight those 'cherry picked' opponents so yes fans are to blame.

 

:deal

 

Ali and SRL were also overrated because of their flashy styles. It's nothing new.