Are VITALI's no-shows vs. RAHMAN part of the Rock's LEGACY

Why do you care if he was floored in training camp, Tyson was by Page, it's really no big deal, but I think you know he was at least knocked down by Butler, the Walker one, may or may not be true.

 

I know. Some fans get so overly protective of their fighters. I read on a few sites about Vitali's getting dropped. But hey, they may have been hating too. :hey

 

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Vitali's health issues have nothing to do with what kind of fighter Rahman was, or was not.

In fact, the idea is rediculous.

 

I know, I told Widdow where to go to find the information, and when he sees it, he shoots it down. I know he's a huge fan of Vitali/Wlad, I would just like to hear him for once admit they have flaws, just like every other fighter, and Vitali, and certainly Wlad are no exception.

 

Rocks greatest legacy will be his loins producing the future world heavyweight champion, Hasim Rahman jr as introduced in this vid,

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KG4sD1QkemQ


His names "Littlerock" and he is trained by Steward

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PgvPusBqji0

http://youtube.com/watch?v=n6zuCOu-l6w

 

He'll NEVER back down from anything he says about DLH, or either K bro. No matter WHAT info is produced, not even with a signed affidavit from the brothers themselves admitting something would he. :bart

 

Magoo, I want to state out in the open that I apologize if I went over the top in arguing with you the other day. I'm really a nice guy and was sort of being an ass in some of my responses to you. I definitely don't agree with your stance on Wlad, but I didn't need to start the insults. I just get a little heated in my debates, and just let whatever would normally roll off of my tongue come out in my posts. I wasn't doing it out of malice. When I say things like "moron" ect... it is things that I call my friends all the time when we are discussion sports, ect... I went back and read some of your older posts, and it does always seem that you have a negative outlook on Wlad. That is your right though, and I respect the fact that you seem to know your boxing outside of that, and you discuss plenty of different topics, just like I do. I sort of grouped you in with guys that only come on here and bash the Klitschkos every day. You are more civil than that, and I owe you an apology in the case that I offended you with some of my comments. I was more irritated with the guys tagging along in the argument, who didn't have a single shred of information to add.

 

I guess he takes nuhugging to a whole nother level, I think if Wlad gets knocked out again, he might give a little bit, but then again, knowing him would probably find an excuse for him, on why he lost.

 

Here is the problem with that argument. I never said that the fight wasn't pushed back that many times. The fact is that the fight was only actually SIGNED and scheduled twice. Only twice did they actually have a venue and ticket sales. The other times were just tenative dates. Technically they were pushed back, or postponed... but they were not signed bouts that had to be cancelled. Those are facts. I never disagreed about Vitali being injured and the dates of the proposed fight being pushed back over and over again. Although the Sept. date for the fight was pushed to November because of Rahman, not Vitali.

 

Why don't I see you talking about how Lewis fans find an excuse for both times that he was knocked out? BTW, I never acted like Wlad didn't lose his fights. He clearly lost... and he got better from it. Is there something wrong with that line of thinking?

 

His loss to McCall was straight up a loss. As with Rahman. But with Rahman, there were circumstances involved that were legitimate. Doesn't mean if you take em away, he wins automatically. But there are there. You want to pretend there aren't, that's all up to you.

And BTW, you were ALL EXCUSES after Wlad's loss to Brew when it happend. You can try to revise history for your fave boxers, but you can't do that with your posts. :deal

 

I never said there weren't cicumstances. However, there are circumstances around just about every fighter who has lost, or won for that matter. It was just as easy for Wlad to overlook, and be unprepared for Ross, Sanders, and Brewster than it would be for Lewis to be the same vs a guy like Rahman. Guys with that much talent could easily take a perceived lesser opponent for granted. However, that doesn't mean that they didn't lose. That is a part of boxing. It is Lewis' and Wlad's fault that they entered the ring in that manner. They must all take full responsibility for that loss. I certainly don't consider McCall or Rahman better fighters than Lewis, and I don't consider Ross, Sanders or Brewster better than Wlad. It's boxing, **** happens.

 

Yeah, but the fact Jose Soliman himself said that Vitali cancelled 4 times against Rahman, which was the first time something like that has happend in 44 years of WBC belts exsistence, isnt enough proof for you to change your mind?

 

So what? Not all circumstances behind a loss are equal. If you base them on your opinion, then they will likley have no where NEAR the legitimacy of the circumstance in Lewis' loss to Rahman in the first fight.

It's like you want people to be able to excuse Wlad's losses, because some do Lewis' loss to Rahman. It's not the same.

 

Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. Nuff said:happy