Are we getting a watered down product has the pool of talent declined in boxing?

I'm North Vietnamese, moron. Members of my family fought with the illustrious, brave warriors of the Vietcong.

Doesn't matter. Who fled the country with their tails between their legs after getting a spanking from peasants, fisherman and farmers? The USA did... the mightiest military in the world and you couldn't deal with a bunch of villagers without dropping gas on them because your soldiers didn't have the stomach for a fight.

My granddad fought against the Americans, he often says that all they had to do was wound a couple of them and the whole lot started panicking. We brave Vietnam, we march onwards even if our brothers fall in battle. The American however gets scared and starts screaming, begging for mercy and crying for his fat mum and wife (who was probably at home getting banged by the Mexican gardener).

 

Lol, now I understand why you hold such a grudge against America. Must of seen Platoon too many times, I'd be angry too lmfao.

 

If you are from the North, you would have been NVA, you dip****. :rofl

Fled the country? When the US left, South Vietnam was still standing, after killing 1 million NVA/VC. So whose ass got kicked again, you ignoramus?

You do realize the NVA was equipped by China and the Soviet Union and was perhaps the best equipped light infantry force in the world at that time, right? Of course not.

So the American soldier and Marine didn't have the stomach for a fight? That would come as a great surprise to the NVA who were outfought and pushed out of Hue, street by street, in vicious urban combat. And the NVA who were routed by soldiers of the 4th Infantry Division in Pleiku Province in May 1967.

I could go on and on, but what would be the point? I'm arguing with someone whose knowledge of that war I could fit in a thimble.

My uncle, incidentally, served two tours in Vietnam and had considerable respect for the courage of the North Vietnamese. But he has actually fired a shot in anger, unlike you who likes to call professional boxers and combat vets cowards from the safety of a keyboard.

:deal

 

Is that the movie where the elite American soldiers get gunned down by a 15 year old girl?

Which actually happened quite a lot actually. Just think, an untrained 15 year old daughter of a fisherman was capable of holding off the elite American army.

 

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The lower divisions are still as good as ever, but the upper weights become watered down. Unfortunately the smaller guys don't get as much exposure or make as much money.

 

No idea what you're talking about.

All I know is, my granddad kicked your granddads ass in the war. He showed me the "patches" he took from US soldiers as souvenirs.

 

I find it hilarious how Americans say "the heavyweight divisions are weak because there's no Americans in it" without realising how that reflects on American fighters. That they can't produce a world class fighter in a supposedly "weak" division


The heavyweight division is the strongest in the world. It's so closely matched. I mean, let's look at the rankings. Boxrec ranked #33 is Ustinov put him in with the #2 guy in the division Povetkin and the fight is too close to call.

That is a sign of a strong division. Not 5 or 6 decent fighters and then it's a parade of bums like in most other divisions.

Bar a few bums (Like Malik Scott), the heavyweight division is solid all the way up to the mid 30s ranked fighters.

 

It's also funny how, America has more registered heavyweights than any country in the world and yet has 0 world class fighters. Then they make their pathetic excuse that "all our fighters are playing golf!" or whatever nonsense they spout to cover for the fact that Europeans and Asians are dominating boxing now.

 

well most yanks who fight are glassed jawed frauds. only the brits,mexicans and eastern europeans and few asians keeping sport alive.

 

deal:deal

They also have glass hearts and are notorious for using PEDs because they can't fight fairly.

 

I'd say the product is different but not necessarily watered down.

It's more international instead of dominated by the USA but that sort of change even goes a bit further if you think about it. Puerto Rico is not producing elite level professional boxers like it use to either.

Also, boxing has some talented athletes but the sport itself has diminished, at least in the English-speaking demographic of the USA and probably some other countries as well. It's no longer a public sport to the extent it used to be. Boxers aren't public figures to the extent they used to be in the USA. I blame television for a lot of that---cable television, pay-per-view and the lack of Olympic and amateur coverage. Used to Olympic boxing and national golden gloves would be televised not so anymore. They'll show girly soccer instead. And boxing gyms and competent boxing coaches are going the way of the Passenger Pigeon and Thylacene.

Boxing had the potential to still be a major sport but promoters stifled its growth. It didn't reach its potential. I suppose in certain areas and demographics it has diminished but in other areas and demographics it has increased.

 

I think it's safe to say it's nearly the end for America in boxing.

The Asians and South Americans dominate the lower weights. The Europeans (with the occasional Canadian and Australian) are dominating the higher weights.

They're clinging onto the Welterweight and light-middleweight divisions by a thread and honestly, they're two of the weakest divisions in boxing.

 

Yeah, the boxers today are better at everything...except boxing!!!