Are We Onboard With Bareknuckle Boxing?

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  1. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Mixed Martial Arts isn't new. Kickboxing is a Dutch tradition for as long as they have been around.
     
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  2. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    I didn’t say I was against it I said I find it more entertaining
     
  3. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Being bareknuckle directly to your face. You would think they would suffer severe injuries and have a longer layoff between fights

    fractured cheekbones, Eyesockets, broken jaws
     
  4. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    No, it’s full of unskilled fighters who couldn’t make it in real boxing. Those guys in there won’t last long either messing with their hands like that.
     
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  5. kirk

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    Agreed.
     
  6. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    BK is more 'real boxing' than Queensberry is.
     
  7. kirk

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    Watching Perry vs Luke, and also just seeing the general havoc that bare knuckles cause, it genuinely makes me wonder how differently the hierarchy of fighting would change if all boxing or mma fights were bare knuckle.

    Wouldn't be surprising if the best boxers and mma fighters currently, wouldn't be Top of the food chain in a more natural fight context such as no gloves.

    Also how many fights would look completely different had they been bare knuckle.

    Idk I find the thought interesting and I definitely see the appeal of cutting through some of the facades that get created by using gloves.

    It's also pretty brutal. The fighters almost always get pretty damaged.

    I remember when UFC first came on to the scene it was kinda seen as this brutal and raw sport that most people would think twice about participating in.

    Now it seems to me that BK is that now.
     
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  8. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    UFC is so old actually. It was in I think 1991 or something crazy, no weight classes, wear whatever gloves you want. It was almost more of a spectacle than an actual fight?

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  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    It's goofy nonsense and will never catch on as more than a sideshow attraction. We already have pro boxing and MMA, there isn't a market for a crappy worst of both worlds hybrid.
     
  10. kirk

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    Since companies often keep PPV buys secret these days, and you can't trust illegal stream reports (for whatever its worth, its reported there were over 700k illegal streams of Perry vs Rockhold), the most reliable data metric one can go by to use to see if something is popular or not is how many people watch it on YouTube, because the numbers are there to easily verify.

    Perry vs Page was put on YouTube a month ago and and got a little over 2 million views.

    For comparison, Haney vs Loma was put up 3 weeks ago, (one week later) and has a million less views.

    In fact, BKs Mendes vs I have no idea who, has 1.9 million views in a month.



    I'm just not sure how much fact there is in saying there's no market for it.

    It's also not the worst of both worlds. It's something quite different entirely.

    Not having pillows on your fists completely change the nature of boxing. And for a lot of people it makes the sport more real and even more respectable.


    But what I'd really love to hear is how its 'goofy'.

    It not being appealing to someone, I can get that. It was an acquired taste for me so I definitely understand.

    But goofy? That makes no sense.

    It makes boxing look like a choir boy sport in comparison, imo. These guys are as legit warriors as they get, imo.

    I dont get what part of this is goody though...


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    What will hold BK back isn't that there's not a market for it... but the raw brutality nature of the sport will likely make it an unappealing venture for quality fighters nearer their primes, and the sport is not conducive to longevity. These things will stifle its growth.
     
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  11. TMLT87

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    Its entertaining in a big dumb fun kinda way but the skill level is poor and as a ruleset it just isnt unique enough for it to truly feel like its own arena. Its too close to actual boxing technically to be its own thing, but with a 00s MMA style presentation tacked on. Tons of boxers, hundreds probably (and even lots of MMA fighters and kickboxers too) could walk in there tomorrow and beat their "champions" right away with little or no BK specific training, in a lot of cases probably very easily. That hurts its credibility big time.
     
  12. Likethembigroundchunky

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    I agree but with the caveat being "at the moment".

    BK appeals to my primitive brain of watching people get bloodied, hurt and being warriors. That's going to appeal to the casual too. As it gets more popular, better fighters will join, it will get more popular.
     
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  13. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    MMA style representation is a big add on. How can you hate on this stuff?

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  14. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Gloves were added for a reason.

    It's stupid to have fighters with broken hands and countless cuts in their faces that won't fully heal between fights.

    Those BK figthers are bums, pro boxers fighting barekuckle would throw much fewer punches, and would fight even less than now because of the cuts.

    There are countless fighters with hands injury fighting with gloves, imagine without gloves, average fighter's career would be halved without gloves.

    Bare knuckle brings nothing to the pro-boxing table at all.
     
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  15. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    And MMA... what to say about it. 0 decent punches most of the fights, thrown with no technique at all, and 20 minutes of two males rubbing their bananas on each other's asses. Unwatchable.
     
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