Are y'all happy that GGG will stay at 160?

If you weren't aware, I'm a much bigger fan of Andre's than what I am of GG's. But that proposed offer by Andre's team doesn't sit right with me.


A few things to consider:


1. The contract was sent when K2 were finalising the Lemieux fight.

2. Everyone knew that GG was in line to face the winner of Canelo-Cotto.

3. HBO would have wanted to build the fight.

4. Andre said that he needed 2 tune ups for Kovalev because of rust due to inactivity. Yet according to the GG contract, he'd only have needed 1 interim fight, despite only fighting once in 19 months and not having fought at SMW for 2 years.

5. Just a few months ago, he said he didn't think he could make 168 again.


Regarding Brook, yes, like Lara, he obviously hasn't fought at MW before. But Brook was a last minute replacement for Eubank.

Regarding GG moving back down to MW from SMW, he'd first need the opportunities to fight at SMW.

 

I'm fine with it for two reasons. He's in his 30s and makes the weight comfortably. This isn't someone bleeding themselves to make 160. Had he been a pro at a young age he probably would of been a welter or junior middle and grown to this weight.

2. Right now middle has more names and better talent than super middle.

3. Let him attempt to set the middle defense record

 

atsch

 

Another clueless post.

GG was right to criticise Canelo and Oscar's actions. Yes, his comments came back to haunt him. But he obviously couldn't have foreseen the Eubank fight falling through as Eubank Jnr appeared to be extremely determined to get the fight.

Why do you keep talking about a Showtime JMW in Lara?

How was GG going to grant Brook a CW, when the fight was a last minute replacement for Eubank? The fight was made official just over a week before his camp was due to start.

By the way, if you're going to capitalise a word for emphasis, at least spell it correctly.

 

I've seen it. But at the moment there's no viable fights.

 

atsch

 

I can't wait to see the much anticipated 160 bout, Golovkin Vs Alfredo Angulo

 

The Ward / GGG drama is pushed by haters that want to see GGG lose and Ward is the only conceivable guy in range of his weight that could be favoured to pull it off.

 

I was not aware of that. I don't keep track of who people are fans of. What they say usually makes it obvious.

Anyway, if you believe it was an insincere offer by Ward's camp that is fine. I don't happen to think so. And according to them they made the offer without having known about Lemieux. Not that it really matters. They could've negotiated when the fight would take place and how many tuneups. The fight could've been after the Canelo vs Cotto winner faced GGG. More time for Andre to shake off rust.

But, instead Team GGG "turned the offer down in 36 minutes." They said the fight would have to be at 164 (there is a precedence here, they demanded the same of Edwin Rodriquez). They said they were not ready for Andre. So, in the end they made it obvious they had no intention of facing any legitimate challenges at 168.

As far as the difference in tuneups required, Ward is moving up in weight to face Kovalev. He has fought at 168 the majority of, if not his entire, pro career. I could see why more tuneups are required for facing Kovalev at LHW.

Brook is a WW, Lara is a LMW. That is the difference. Lara would likely be the tougher fight, and coincidentally(?) is being ignored.

GGG can create opportunities if he wants to. I doubt someone like Degale would turn down the opportunity. It's clear GGG is not interested.




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punisher,

I don't believe it was sincere.


Let's have a look at things in more detail:

In the first half of 2015, GG knew that Miguel Cotto wasn't going to fight him. Really, the whole boxing world knew that. Cotto instead wanted to fight Canelo in a huge fight later on in the year. So instead of enforcing his mandatory, GG accepted step aside money. Talks were then held between Cotto and Canelo's team in June, and the fight was made official early in August.

HBO likes GG to fight 3-4 times per year. After he'd stepped aside for Cotto and Canelo, HBO wanted him to fight again in October. Talks were then held with David Lemieux in June, and the fight was made official at the end of the July. So, my main issues are as follows:


1. Why were Roc Nation trying to decide Andre's future, literally just a few weeks after he'd fought for the first time in 19 months?

I find that odd.


2. I'm sure they would have known that GG was in talks to face Lemieux. People talk in the boxing world, managers, trainers and promoters etc.


3. Most importantly - Regardless of whether or not they knew about Lemieux, why on earth would they have sent a contract out when they knew full well that after whoever he fought, his sole focus would have been on the winner of Cotto-Canelo?

Miguel Cotto is a Roc Nation fighter. They had a hand in putting together the Cotto-Canelo fight. In the first half of 2015, they knew that the winner was mandated to fight GG. So they knew before Andre had even fought Paul Smith that GG was going to pursue the winner of that fight. So it was completely pointless.

Nobody in GG's position would have even considered fighting Andre at that point, not when they had a fight of their own lined up and they were eagerly awaiting on who would be mandated to fight them afterwards.

As above. He wouldn't have committed to fighting anyone at 168, when he had a MW title fight coming up and he was awaiting the outcome of Cotto-Canelo.

You're entitled to your opinion. But he didn't fight tune ups against LHW's or anyone who replicated Kovalev's style. He took them solely because of inactivity. Although he'd spent the majority of his career at SMW, he hadn't fought there for almost 2 years when Roc Nation sent out their contract. Also, he'd only fought once in 19 months. Then we have Andre's admission that he doesn't think he can make SMW anymore.

The difference is irrelevant because he never pursued Brook. Brook was a last minute replacement after he'd already signed to fight Eubank at MW.

I like Lara and I'd like to see it myself. But why would GG push for it? Although he's more proven and more talented than Eubank, he's a Showtime fighter who's a JMW. He offers nothing. GG wants to obtain all of the belts at MW. After Brook, his focus is going to be on BJS unless he has to face a mandatory.

At this specific moment in time, James's sole focus is getting Badou Jack in the ring to unify.

 

What a f@g:rofl

 

TEACH! :thumbsup