Are you buying into the Zhang-Joyce-Hrgovic triangle theory?

I think it's not unfair to say this. Hrgovic has a case for the win whereas Joyce ... Then again they are different fighters and it's not to say that Hrgovic would necessarily beat Joyce. Joyce has gone an awful long way relying on chin and cardio.

 

Hrgovic is in the mix like everybody else. And has genuine chance against the top 3, unlike journeyman chisora whyte and parker.

 

Joyce was saying he was pissed Hrgovic was ahead of him. Well, he can't be now. Let them fight or lets admit Joyce has no problem getting fights to prove himself purely on nationality or promoter. Don't see Hrgovic, Dychko, Jalalov, Mahkmudov, or plenty of other guys getting the opportunities Joyce or Dubois do. Hell Dubois Doesn't have as good a win as any of those four, has more loses than they do put together, yet has a bs title and a mandatory title shot.

 

We might as well make it a rectangle theory and say AJ's stock went up because he handled Zhang in the amateurs if we reach enough.
Yea, Hrgovic did better by not getting KO 6st, he had opportunities to quit but he didn't. He showed more facial fortitude.
Both Zhang and Hrgovic are good fighters that's for sure.
I actually don't want to see Zhang - Hrgovic II or Zhang - Joyce II next but down the line, let's get new match ups.
AJ - Zhang
Joyce - Hrgovic
Winners fight each other.

 

Did he not ?

 

Triangle theory does not work in boxing, Joyce & Hrgovic are two completely different fighters and Zhang beat them both (unofficially) I do accept the fact that Hrgovic had a bad night though

 

I thought Hrgovic beat Zhang pulling out the win in the final rounds. But Joyce would beat him like he did in WSB. Hrgovic isn't a southpaw, isn't half the counter puncher Zhang is which is what you want against an aggressive opponent and I just don't think Hrgovic hits hard enough to deter Joyce from walking him down. In the WSB fight Hrgovic cracked him time and again with huge right hands and Joyce didn't even blink. You have to have the power to deter Joyce or the movement and Hrgovic doesn't have either.

 

Hrgovic vs Joyce is 50/50 imo.

 

Hrgovic beats Joyce, especially now after Zhang defeat - before that it would be 50/50

 

Hrgovic lost to Joyce in a semi-pro fight years ago. Then, unlike Joyce, he won against Zhang in a controversial fight, but let's say he barely won by one round and while Joyce lost, but Hrgovic won, for the 5 rounds I compare both, Hrgovic was more in *hit pants than Joyce. Now their only way to solve it is a fight. It's well known that A beats B, B beats C doesn't mean A beats C.

 

When Hrgovic lost to Joyce how old was he?

Young he was and Joyce alot more experienced.

Blatant 50/50 fight that one right now.

 

Joyce was in prime then, and was way faster - and still barely won (not beat) Hrgovic on points in 3 round fight. Joyce has no chin, Hrgovic took to the chin at least 20 straight lefts from Zhang, Joyce toook 5 and got his face smashed in in 6 rounds. Doctors had to save him. Joyce aint on Hrgovic level anymore.

WSB had Yoka wining both Hrgovic and Joyce, now Yoka is a joke of Heavyweight category. Dude, you know nothing about boxing.

 

Yoka beat both Hrgovic and Joyce, is he a champ, is he even in top 15?

 

Actually Hrgovic was the more experienced of the two when they fought ins WSB. You can hear it in the commentary, Hrgovic was the seasoned international while Joyce who came to boxing very late having done Rugby and Athletics, was a novice on the international scene.

But yeah while I favour Joyce, we really don't know, which is why I want this fight to happen.