Are you buying into the Zhang-Joyce-Hrgovic triangle theory?

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Does the triangle theory work here?

  1. Yes, Hrgovic's stock just went up

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  2. No, he still had a poor performance himself

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  1. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    We all know Yoka didn't beat Joyce or Hrgovic in Rio, some big bribes must have been paid to secure that. That Olympics was so corrupt after an investigation the IOC refused AIBA to host the next Olympics that's how bad it was. And I must say Hrgovic was utterly robbed against Yoka, that was a worse robbery than Joyce/Yoka.
     
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  2. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Yeh but Hrgovic was very young, Joyce was moree primed physically. So hrgovic has gotten stronger and tougher. Joyce may of got slower although stronger himself. Joyce doesnt walk through Hrgovic like he did before.
     
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  3. HercegBosnaBoks

    HercegBosnaBoks New Member Full Member

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    His stock has of course risen. He managed to defeat, all be it narrowly, the man who just destroyed Joyce who was viewed as a solid top 3 fighter. Furthermore Hrgovic - Zhang also proved that Hrgovic a superb chin. In that fight he has taken dozens of Zhangs clean powershots and was not wobbling, whilst Joyce was starting to dance in the first after the first few clean shots. Hrgovic went down after getting hit behind the ear, losing his balance more than getting knocked down. A similar shot from Ruiz ruined AJs career.

    Knowing boxing Zhang will have a difficult time getting a real fight. He is now in a similar position as Hrgovic. Holds no belt, offers no huge payday and is a high risk for everyone.
     
    HercegBosnaBoks, Apr 17, 2023
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  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Zhang's much better than previously thought

    His stock has risen again

    Hrgovic's, regardless if you had him beating Zhang or not, stock has also risen after Zhang proved himself again against Big Joe who was ranked in the top 5 at HW.

    People said Hrgovic's stock had nosedived after he lost or won a razor-close decision against a ''40 y/o bum'' and they wouldn't cut him a single ounce of slack for the extenuating circumstances regarding suffering the death of his father just a few months before or it being his first fight with a new trainer so by the same token it's risen back up again

    Big Joe's stock has dropped a bit but he's still one of the best HWs in world and a nightmare to deal with for the vast majority of HWs. He lost on an injury to one if not the worst stylistic match ups out there for him in an extremely risky fight few would've taken in his position. Tactically they got it badly wrong too and I think coming in a lot lighter was a bad move too, especially considering the tactics he employed.
     
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  5. MAD_PIGE0N

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    I hope there won't be a Zhang or Hrgovic hype, one that will replace Joyce's - keep in mind Zhang dropped Jerry the nobody Forrest 3 times and still ended in a draw.

    He truly performed great against Joe, but it's also Joe who performed bad with his straight forward and no head movement style - this was expected at some point.
     
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  6. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    Hrgovic didn't beat Zhang imo.
     
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  7. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Both robberies.
     
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  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't think there is any doubt that east and central Europeans struggle to get fights.

    Dubois, by the way, is a glorified club-fighter. Flat-out garbage. Untalented muscleman.
     
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  9. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Somebody told me Yoko's wife also won a medal and that was the angle. It was supposed to be historic, or soemthing.
     
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  10. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Many ripped Hrgovic to shreds for his performance against Zhang which he still edged out. Joyce gets tattooed by left hands and stopped inside 6 rounds and there's so much coping and mental gymnastics from the big Joyce supporters who also ripped into Hrgovic after his last fight. I think it's safe to say that Hrgovics stock has gone back up some yes....
     
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