Are you not impressed with the fight? With Calzaghe? With Hopkins?

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  1. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    A lot of people in here are throwing around some things but it really suprises me because I'm sitting here thinking..."what did these people expect!?!?"

    Did you not expect a dirty ugly fight? Because if you have seen Hopkins and even a few calzaghe fights then you knew that this is what was going to happen.

    Also, people are saying they aren't impressed with Calzaghe? OK let me just say it like this. If you don't knock hopkins the **** out cold with a killer shot, Then you aren't going to look good fighting (winning/lossing) Bernard Hopkins. His styles game is mainly to make you look as bad as you possible can. He wants to make you miss so he can hit you when you are at your most vulnerable so its extremely easy to score as a judge.

    Another thing, We know Calzaghe isn't a homerun hitter, and he doesn't have Roy Jones type of athleticism, so what the **** did you expect? Calzaghe has a few things going for him, first its unreal speed with his arms and fists as he showed tonight. Second its some very good upperbody movement, but anyone that knows anything about boxing its this - if you are going to implement that style of ducking weaving dodging etc, its a hell of a lot easier to do it when you're making your opponent come to you.

    With that said, Calzaghe had to put the pressure and lunge in because that was the only way you're going to hit a fighter that is constantly moving on you, and when Hopkins comes in he is coming in with his head down and with a right cross. And if you're in the inside its a bunch of clinching and hitting with hopkins.

    Again it raises me to say What the hell did you guys expect from this? You guys aren't impressed by Calzaghe? Then tell me then brainiacs, how the in H E L L....Was Calzaghe going to beat Hopkins? If there was anything given Calzaghe's physical attributes, what the **** could he have done?

    The fight was clear as day to me - the tempo changed in the 4th round, and Calzaghe won rounds off activity and landing blows whether weak or not IT DOESN'T MATTER he landed **** and it looked like he was busy. The reality is if you land 10-15 "slaps" a round and you get countered back by 2-3 flush shots you still win the round. It's not like everyshot that hopkins landed had Calzaghe on ***** street. Thats what Calzaghe did and he comfortably won the fight, major props to Calzaghe for not letting Hopkins ridiculously difficult style mentally discourage him, expecially after the bad start from round 1!
     
  2. EARL

    EARL Active Member Full Member

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    I really enjoyed the fight. Was impressed with Bernard, unimpressed with Calzaghe.
     
  3. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Take out the really and I'd agree.

    Being unimpressed doesn't mean I'm lacking my dues. I give Joe credit.
     
  4. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    Thats what I mean, I'm not really impressed with either, but Joe did what he had to win and I comfortably had him winnig the fight. But I completely give Joe 100% of the credit for keeping his focus and not letting the quick knockdown in the 1st round discourage him for the rest of the fight and that to me actually was impressive. He kept his chin up high and the classic calzaghe swagger for the entire fight and thats what really did it for him.
     
  5. angelos

    angelos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1. The fight was entertaining.
    2. I like Calzaghe's character but dissapointed by his boxing skill.
     
  6. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    besting hopkins 9 rounds to 3 is awesome, for a style as ****ing awkward as the style of bernard hopkins. Calzaghe definitely kept his cool and did what he had to do to take care of business. It basically came down to who was going to impose their style the best, and calzaghe CLEARLY won in this one. Once again we gotta realize, not only was this a orthodox vs a southpaw, but Hopkins has one of the most akward styles to land punches on, You just CAN'T look good boxing the guy. If you aren't blessed with extreme athletic ability like the all mighty Roy Jones then you just aren't going to look good with him.

    Hopkins moves, he lunges in head first, he is clinching inside, hitting and holding, and even playing psychological mind games in there...He is a veteran that knows E V E R Y trick in the book. You can't look good against him!!! There isn't a boxer on earth right now that can fight hopkins and look good doing it,

    Calzaghe Winning 9 rounds to 3 and not getting discouraged after the first round = IMPRESSIVE
     
  7. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Thoroughly impressed by BOTH fighters and slightly disappointed that so many are discreding two great pugilists.

    It was a tactical chess match of technical genius.

    :smoke
     
  8. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Enjoyed the fight. Impressed with Hopkins turning it ugly, and impressed for Joe basically winning ugly. Not too many fighters can beat Hopkins at that game.
     
  9. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    :happy

    I honestly don't know how anyone can't be impressed by a fighter winning 9 rounds to 3 AND had gotten knockdowned in the 1st round, a round that he might have even won if he were to not have gotten knocked down. meaning he could have possibly out hussled Hopkins 10 rounds to 2...Which the thought itself is crazy.
     
  10. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    My thoughts exactly:good
     
  11. blood_lust

    blood_lust Active Member Full Member

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    Too bad he didn't win 9 rounds. Pretty much everyone can agree this was a close fight, with most ringside observers giving Nard the nod with a score of 114-113. Hopkins won his rounds clearly, whereas most of Calzaghe's rounds were very close and could of swung to Hopkins, who clearly landed the more accurate, harder andeffective punches.
     
  12. Smazz20

    Smazz20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I enjoyed the six rounds I got to see. Calzaghe did what he had to do and climbed up off the canvas to do it. I don't give a damn if it was a 43 year old who put him on his ass. The Salem KD was far more embarassing.
     
  13. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    I completely disagree. Trust me, I doesn't matter how clean those shots are landing by hopkins. His complete inactivity and belief that he is winning rounds when he is only landing 3-4 clean shots a round that are 1) not rocking the opponent 2) are not followed up by punches but by instead a clinch. pretty much produces an easy fight to score. Hopkins was getting outworked in just about every round of that fight. I clearly see that you were judging for the "power" of hopkins clean shots and you weren't counting whatso ever the flurries that Calzaghe was throwing. Well when a fighter is fighting 3 minutes of every round to the 45 seconds of every round in the opponent than where is the logical decision going to go??? easy as cake to score.
     
  14. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bernard knocked Calzaghe down once. Then had the only other meaningful power shots of the night. Calzaghe poured in a bunch of slaps that had no affect on Bernard at all, but merely count as points for some reason in the fight. Bernard is 43, Calzaghe is 35, yet Calzaghe couldnt at all impose his will on Hopkins even in the end, Hopkins was telling Calzaghe to bring it on, and getting the better of him on the inside. A more active Hopkins dominates Calzaghe, it was simply Calzaghe's punch output that saved him in this fight, which were largely harmless and didnt scratch Hopkins tough hide. I wasnt impressed at all.
     
  15. blood_lust

    blood_lust Active Member Full Member

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    This isn't amateur boxing. You have to hurt you opponent and land CLEAN punches, not flurries that are generally ineffective.

    I can't believe how many people consider this a "clear" victory for Calzaghe. Your punches need to be doing damage. I'll take 10 of Hopkins solid connects over 20 of Calzaghe's slaps any day.

    I guess it depends on what you like, but in know way was the fight that wide. Majority of press had it for Hopkins, including many Brits. You can argue 7 rounds for Calzaghe at best, but you can argue the same for Hopkins as well.

    Hopkins was right, people are too impressed by activity, even when its not effective.