Are your coaches always right?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by pugilisticteen, Apr 10, 2013.


  1. pugilisticteen

    pugilisticteen Member Full Member

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    Im 7 months in to boxing, im advancing quickly but still discovering myself as a fighter and my natural abilities. My coaches are still helping me with basics but I dont see many others doing habits they are trying to teach me and it seems to be a hindrance, constantly when retracting the jab it has to be pulled right back to my left ear which works defensively but leaves me vulnerable to jabs. he stance im told to position myself in is very square etc I feel like a peekaboo styled fighter even though im 140lbs lol naturally I like to let the lead hand stick out slightly to feint and find distance etc and have my right against my chin.

    Before finishing on the bags today I decided to do what I felt comfortable doing, I relaxed and worked angles on to bag whilst letting off some of the most powerful, accurate and fast shots I did not even know I had in me YET. I decided to scrap the palm facing the ground style left hook and go for the palm facing me style hook which is apparently wrong. I have natural speed and power and my coaches have been trying to utilize and nurture it, but ive felt like the natural ability I knew I had when I entered the gym has slowly been replaced with a stiff standard boxing template. I actually felt like a mexican lightweight with the power of someone like hearns aha. People mentioned I was looking strong today, im going to run with my style and because I seem better this way im sure my coaches wont mind, ill obviously tweak the fundamentals.
     
  2. twinwonw

    twinwonw Member Full Member

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    When you jab and you pull it back to more outwards it allows you to throw quicker hooks or hook off from the jab if you pull it back to your outside area/ear area I'm assuming.

    If you position yourself in squared position then you are exposing yourself more to the opponent basically you are giving your whole body to your opponent to go for. But, if you stand diagonally you are only giving the half of the body to your opponent which is harder for them.

    And the way people are taught to throw hooks are depended by trainers, for my trainer he says most hooks are usually facing me usually when it's longer hook while inside hooks are usually palm to the ground.

    But I would just listen to your coaches if they have been in the game for a long time and etc.
     
  3. NVSemin

    NVSemin Sugar Boxing Full Member

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    Coaches are not always right. I guess a good coach is a coach who acknowledges this and does not play expert too much. I have been to five gyms, and there are many things which are taught differently from stance to punching.

    Trust yourself more and test everything in sparring.
     
  4. I'm beginning to think you are a troll.
     
  5. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ive worked with Hundreds of Fighters, everyone of them Taught me. :yep
     
  6. Jdsm

    Jdsm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ofcourse a coach isn't always right, but a coach should mould his philosphies based off of experience and learn how to apply them to certain scenarios.
     
  7. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    A boxing instructor is never always right, nobody is, but you always try. It is a big challenge to try and find a compromise between having a structured approach to the way you teach things and becoming so rigid that you stifle yourself and the people you are trying to teach. You have to be alert to and aware of how a person learns, and then figure out how to get them to focus on their strengths while you focus on correcting their flaws, if that makes sense.
    It doesn't make sense to me to tell somebody to "pull the jab back" because, when punching, all force goes away from the body. The turn of the shoulders propels and retracts the arm...and I don't see how you can jab at all if your hand is starting up by your ear. Seems unnatural and uncomfortable to me. And I've never taught a palm down left hook, and never will. Partly because Henry Cooper didn't explain it that way in his book, which I read as an 11 year old. Mostly because at a gym I once worked at I saw a bunch of guys that had been taught that way at another gym with sore wrists and sprung knuckles (the last two on the left hand) wincing and gun-shy every time they threw left hooks at the heavy bag.
     
  8. JDK

    JDK Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If you have a legit trainer then he most definitely has more than 7 months experience and you should probably listen to him.
    Whatever he's trying to teach, you will have use for it in one way or another. It most likely is too early for you to develop your own style with only 7 months under you.
    Show him you are able to learn and stay disciplined. After he spends more time with you, he will learn what is best for you and adapt to your physical attributes.
     
  9. 123ko

    123ko Active Member Full Member

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    once you have a style that suits your way of boxing ,,the coach should then adapt idea's to suit your ability's to box ,,allot of coach's either read from a book of how to box or teach them to box how they boxed
     
  10. catch22

    catch22 Member Full Member

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    This ^^^