Arguello. Chavez. Mayweather. Who was the greatest superfeatherweight ever?

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  1. mexican legend

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    Agreed. :deal
     
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  2. DINAMITA

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    Did you happen to see PBF v Corrales? I think 5 knockdowns say NO. Both Arguello and Chavez was brutalize Chico. He was never in this class.
     
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  3. DINAMITA

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    As has already been pointed out, he never fought at 130 though, so that point is irrelevant on this thread.
     
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  4. mexican legend

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    True but had the skills to dominate and well since he was a big 126 pound fighter.
     
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  5. DINAMITA

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    True, but he cannot be considered the greatest superfeatherweight ever. Therefore: irrelevant. If peak Roberto Duran boiled down to 130, he could've beaten all of them, but what's the point of saying that in this debate?
     
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  6. mexican legend

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    Good point, I wished Sanchez did live though. He had a chance to be something special. :-(
     
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  7. DINAMITA

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    He was something special. His life was cut short, but he was a ****ing magnificent fighter while he was here.
     
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  8. mexican legend

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    Agreed.
     
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  9. DINAMITA

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    Apologies, my mistake amigo. I don't think that fight would have that much relevance to a Mayweather v Arguello clash, Arguello was in a completely different to Chico IMO. I still think Floyd could sneak a 12-round decision v AA though. Over 15 rounds I strongly fancy Arguello. P4P I say Arguello too.
     
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  10. Biggame

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    Ppl tend to forget that Floyd not only outboxed, but ultimately stopped G. Hernandez at 130lbs who at the time was the absolute best 130lber in the world! Undefeated at the weight, and ring Champion. This was still a developing Floyd! G. Hernandez style wise reminded me of Arguello w/his size and reach, but he was unable to get to Mayweather who was both aggressive and defensive in that fight!

    12 or 15rds, I still see Floyd winning as he was a guy who trained to fight 20rds and wouldn't tire!


    Whoever bought up the C. Hernandez fight should watch it again!!!
     
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  11. Biggame

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    double post!
     
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  12. Biggame

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    damn tripple post!
     
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  13. NALLEGE

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    I have a hard time believing that. Chico would give those guys a fight because those guys would stand in front of him. Chico fought his very best against guys who stood in front of him. I do believe that those 2 probably beat Chico, but they wouldn't make it look as easy as Floyd did...
     
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  14. Thread Stealer

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    All-time rankings I'd have Arguello, then Mayweather, then Chavez.

    Head-to-head. Mayweather over Arguello, Arguello over Chavez, Chavez over Mayweather.

    The Chavez-Mayweather is the toughest fight to call of the 3, IMO.
     
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    I don't think it was Taylor'e elusiveness that really troubled Chavez. It was his ridiculous speed and workrate. Taylor outworked Chavez in the pocket for the majority of the fight. He was taking the harder shots, but still outlanding Chavez and winning more rounds. Whitaker, on the other hand, was much more elusive and fought more of the fight on the backfoot. He had underrated strength and his angles were so tricky for Chavez.

    Mayweather doesn't have the handspeed and workrate of Taylor (nor does he have the awkward angles of Whitaker), but he definitely has more intelligence and ring discipline than Taylor. Mayweather knows when to trade and when to "stink it out". Chavez was terrific at cutting off the ring. He was an intelligent pressure fighter who knew when and where to throw, and rolled and slipped shots effectively too. It's a tough fight to call. Mayweather has good in-fighting skills and a big of tricks to fall back on. Castillo's pressure gave Mayweather all sorts of problems in the first fight. One thing favoring Mayweather is, Castillo had a size advantage that Chavez wouldn't have. I don't see Chavez re-hydrating to 147 and having those extra pounds on Mayweather. JCC wasn't that big.
     
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