Arguello vs Chavez (Super Featherweight)

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by ETM, Nov 3, 2020.


Who Wins?

  1. ETM by dec

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  2. JCC by dec

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  3. ETM by stoppage

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  4. JCC by stoppage

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  5. Draw

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  1. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I've got Arguello at 130.

    Chavez wins at 135-140.
     
  2. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Alexis Arguello wins this fight by a hard earned close but unanimous decision. Julio Caesar Chaves is a very deadly puncher who usually wears down an opponent but Arguello won his title by stopping another deadly puncher in Ruben Olivares on Nov 23 1974 by a TKO 13 to win the title at 126 lbs. I look for Alexis to fight Chavez the same way he fought Olivares. Arguello would establish the left jab to keep Julio off balance. Chavez is not a mobile fighter to offset Alexis. The counter punching will favor Arguello in this contest.
     
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  3. Bujia

    Bujia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I’d be really interested in 2 things: 1) the moment we see how Chavez reacts to Arguello’s power, and 2) what sort of game plan Chavez would implement after.

    He isn’t smothering Arguello the way he did Rosario. For an “upright” and textbook boxer Arguello was as natural a puncher as they came. No stiffness in his offensive game or when under fire. Unless he was out on his feet you really needed to watch yourself coming in. One punch. Left or right. Head or body. That’s all it took for the fight to do a 180.

    If I’m betting, I’d put money on Chavez to start boxing on the move after about the 2nd round.

    So there’s my prediction for the first 2 rounds.
     
  4. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Over 12, Chavez. Over 15, Arguello.

    Not many better than Alexis in the championship rounds. I think he takes two of the last three to edge it.
     
  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Julio.

    He could abuse class fighters in close (Rosario) and reach much longer fighters for the KO (Mayweather). He was quicker and more precise on his feet. A great fight for sure.

    Julio.
     
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  6. Tin_Ribs

    Tin_Ribs Me Full Member

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    Ha. This is my thinking. I never really thought of Chavez as a pressure fighter per se despite his ability to naturally barrel opponents into the phone booth. More an offensive minded boxer puncher but one who fight off the back foot effectively and hold the centre of the ring when he chose to, slipping and countering like many of the well schooled Mexicans.

    I reckon he'd suss fairly quickly that it was the way to go against Arguello rather than forcing a war. Like you say, Rosario wasn't Arguello.
     
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  7. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    Yep, Rosario wasn't Arguello but nor was Chavez another Escalera. I think intelligent pressure is the way for Chavez to win. He'll close distance, use his head movement and some lateral movement but I don't think Arguello will have Chavez resetting each time. No doubt that Chavez will have to rely on that tremendous chin of his at times though.

    Honestly, I'm on the fence a bit with this one. It's probably the best matchup that could be made in super featherweight history. It's the one I'd most want to see anyway.
     
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  8. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    @ETM - can you add a poll to this thread?
     
  9. Rope-a-Dope

    Rope-a-Dope Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  10. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Agreed. I'd be leery of someone feeling quite strongly one way or another in this one. It's tight. Two fantastic ATG fighters in a match where no-one is overly disadvantaged stylistically IMO.
     
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  11. Bujia

    Bujia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    All’s I said was that Chavez was probably gonna look to box more in this one. I never said that was a bad thing. I’d actually probably favor him in a 12 rounder doing so.
     
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  12. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    You got it
     
  13. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Quick make it public!
     
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