Arguello vs Mayweather at 130

Mayweather by Dec.

 

Did I say you ever said that?

 

Chavez was going downhill pre-Taylor, but he looked like he turned back the clock somewhat for that fight.

He was clearly past prime for Whitaker, not that it would have made any difference.

 

Another fight worth considering is Chavez/Camacho. Chavez cuts off the ring really well there, does a great job of smothering anything Camacho throws, gets off his shots really quickly against a mobile mover (more of a mover than Floyd, in fact).

 

atsch If I didn't know you better, I'd think you were joking.

I'll give you another chance to see what is so mind-bogglingly stupid about this point, before I enlighten you. You seriously don't see how dumb this point is???

 

Popkins is becoming increasingly aggressive these days.

 

Yes they are in a different weight class, just as Castillo is effectively 2-3weight classes bigger than Chavez, as he was 148lbs in the ring, the point you blatantly ignore

The simple point you are failing to grasp is Castillo had 10lbs on Mayweather, Chavez being an old school none weight drainer just like Mayweather would not have 10lbs on him.

Its like saying Robinson had problems with Lamotta when outweighed by 10-20lbs, so Henry Armstrong would kick Robinsons his ass at welterweight because P4P Armstrong's better

 

I've seen it a couple times, and although Mayweather stunk out a couple rounds with too much moving and then went back to the pocket in the last 2 rounds, I still felt Chavez was losing most of the rounds. He was landing some good body shots, and had a hell of a workrate, but he was eating most of the clean shots.

 

I can't really be bothered responding, you are either very blinkered when it comes to a certain fighter so there is no point in arguing with you, or you are very stupid so there is even less point.

OK then, Ricky Hatton had better punch resistance and was physically stronger at welterweight than Julio Cesar Chavez at superfeatherweight. Another day, another demoralizing load of shite on here. :dead

 

I don't make little judgements and comments about you as a poster, so I dunno why you do about me.

 

I think this post is flat out wrong.

I dont think Fernandez embarrased Arguello, he put on a great discplined show of boxing and out-maneavered Arguello, but it was a close fight, I scored it a draw. Also I dont think Arguello was at his best, he wasnt as motivated as usual IMO.

Mayweather would not stop Arguello, don't even say **** like that. The only man to stop Arguello in a world title fight was Pryor at 140lbs, no-one would stop him at 130lbs.

I think Mayweather does get an early lead, as he uses his angles well and land combinations. As the rounds go by Arguello would crank up the pressure and start getting combo's off behind the jab. By 12 rounds Mayweather would have a close lead, by 15 rounds its a toss-up IMO.

 

OK you've just confirmed you're either too dumb or too biased to understand the basic premise of a weight advantage

 

Pacquaio or Duran might

 

It doesn't really matter how you scored it. Arguello struggled badly with Fernandez's movement and speed, however you look at it. Mayweather has movement and speed to a much greater extent than Fernandez. It's safe to assume the stylistic advantage is with him and that he's going to make it count.

Arguello was not a pressure fighter though, more a stand-up pure puncher. Can't see him touching Mayweather here. Just too slow getting off on a moving target. It happened in so many of his fights.

 

Not at 130lbs though. Maybe Duran at 135lbs and thats a big maybe. And maybe Pac at 140lbs.

He struggled, but I do not think it was badly. The advantage is with him, but I do think Arguello would do more to negate it as the fight goes on, and, I hate using this excuse, he was better prepared/motivated.

I disagree.

He is a boxer-puncher who applied pressure. He would look to take centre of the ring and move forward behind a jab, and then counter behind it or throw combos. I think he did apply subtle pressure that gradually increased as rounds went by. Although I wouldnt say he was a pressure fighter in the traditional sense he did apply it, and well IMO.