Arguello vs Nelson @ 130

When the Hell did Azumah fight Alexis Arguello at 130 lbs?????????? I don't give a **** for your respect for me (I have none for you) and you can have as much of a laugh as you want.

 

I think a sincere appraisal watching the career set of both guys gives you the answer. They both fought the best of their era. Arguello was a 1 track pony style wise whereas Azumah was adaptable. I can see Azumah doing him several ways. Height and reach never bothered a fighter like Azumah who could practical out fight and out box anyone. The only person who could outbox Azumah was Pernell Whittaker. Both at their best this is an easy one for me to pick. Going toe to toe with Azumah Nelson at his peak which Arguello would have to do will guarantee he gets stopped similar to Hagler versus Hearns without the drama as Arguello did not possess Tommy Hearns's boxing skills.

 

You clearly suffer from learning difficulties. Poor kid. No one said Azumah and Arguello fought at 130 pounds as unfortunately their times did not quite gel. I think you need to go and take your pills.

 

So, no examples? I can smell something.....bull****.

Your final anlysis is ridiculous. Also, why would Alexis have to go toe-to-toe. He'd make very subtle movements, and take a lot of punishment on the way, but if you had watched Alexis' career set you'd know how well suited Azumah was to him. Hoenstly I've had enough of debating with you, your responses have done all the work for me to be honest.

 

You said 'When did Azumah struggle to take someone out?' What I was saying was, if he had fought Arguello at 130 lbs (in a time machine for example) then we would see him struggle to take someone out. I have been objective and provided examples. You have shown me no instances where Arguello fought a like-minded fighter to Nelson and lost. That is because you have none, because you are not well-read on the sport and have little to no knowledge outside of African fighters.

 

Thats a bit of a cop out answer mate...Nelson wasnt entirely convincing against fairly basic stylists in Martinez and Laporte..perhaps you could say the same about Villasana but both their figths were quite one sided essentially.

I fail to see how he ever fought someone like Arguello...but if you could point that out to me I would appreciate it.

 

And Arguello a 'one trick pony'.

Good jab. Great boxing brain. Veyr good punch resistance. Heart. One of the best technical punchers of all time if not the best. Left hook hurtful. Right straight paralysing.

Now, I agree with you Olu that Azumah was very adaptable. However, so was Arguello. He did struggle with movers at times, but Nelson was gifted a draw against Nelson in the first fight so he wasn't exactly unbeatable himself (redeemed himself in the 2nd fight of course, but that isn't the point)

Everyone knows of your bias towards African fighters, and in a way I applaud your loyalty. However, claiming Nelson would beat Arguello is like me claiming Ken Buchanan would beat Sweet Pea. And then not refusing to change my opinion. And then not receiving constructive criticism well. And then calling everyone else an idiot.

You get the gist?

 

WhatARock, he has no idea who you're talking about. The man is not well-read at all.

 

Olu must be off checking Boxrec and wikipedia trying to find a comeback to WhatARock :rofl or oing through one of his 'career sets'

 

I have heard it all now comparing Nelson to Buchanan and Arguello to Sweet Pea Whittaker. If that is your analysis then clearly I don't need to debate it as your comments prove how idiotic they are quite frankly. I might like my fellow Africans but what I refuse to do is be sentimental about boxing. If you look at a recent post I clearly picked PBF over than excellent fighter from Ghana Ike Quartey. Yes I would have rooted for Quartey but I know who would have won.

The truth of the matter is that Azumah was better than Arguello at every facet of the game.
Nelson was gifted nothing. He beat Fenech in my opinion the 1st time. I was there I scored it 116-112 even though he was sick. Jeff Fenech was the aggressor but Nelson counter punching accuracy won it for me clearly. He destroyed him comprehensively in the rematch in Fenech's hometown so your comments hold no water. The reason he give him the rematch in his own words immediately after the 1st contest was to prove "who was pound for pound the better fighter". He even said on the day of the fight that it would not go past 7 rounds. The world thought he was mad but those of us in the know, knew that a special dish was being cooked for Fenech which he would not survive.

 

I am sorry Arguello never fought anyone like Nelson because such fighter are rare. Please don't say Pryor, Chacon, Boza Edwards etc as Nelson is a far more legendary fighter than these guys. Sanchez was also superior to Arguello frankly.

 

Nelson toyed with Villasana, Azabache Martinez and clearly beat Juan La Porte.

 

I dont check out box rec as those statistics don't mean anything compared to watching an actual fight. It does not tell you how Azumah toyed with many top class fighters before putting their lights out. The guys whon went the distance like Villasana and Laporte were guys that could not be stopped at that point anyway. In the UK you are probably hypnotised by his beating of the over-achiever Jim Watt.

 

Nelson best Fenech in their first fight...116-112 you say :rofl

 

Ask Pat Cowdell who was unfortunate to face Sanchez and Nelson in world title fights about Azumah Nelson's punch power. Like Sugar Ray Robinson Azumah had a great everything. His best punch was anything he hit you with. Being a great boxer and craftsman is one thing when you are blessed with heart and unbelievable punching power it makes a potent mix.