Arguello vs Nelson @ 130

Still lazy lazy lazy analysis!!!! Comes for the over nostalgic school of boxing punditry. Only sense said in the last few posts is that styles make fights. In that case doesn't take much to realise that a jack of all trades like Zoomy has ultimately got the beatuing of a great but to be honest one trick pony like Arguello. Now Arguello not the only great to suffer from a lack of diversity... Hearns at his most predictable when consumned as the Hitman (brilliant but predictability has its achilles heel as hagler showed him). Azumah would hit Arguello good and plenty... Arguello if you had the skills to stay in there with him wasnt hard to hit. Nelson hits you with regularity and your gonna get beat ..... A.B.C stuff im afraid!

 

azumah nelson vs pryor at 140, how does it go olu?

 

Sorry, but does anyone else see the tremendous irony here?

 

Jack of all trades is a good description of Nelson.as long as you include the master of none part at the end.


Seriously though, i was always more impressed with Nelsons's physical ability and power allied to it, rather his more technical side.He's too sloppy to beat Arguello more often than not imo, though it would be a helluva fight.

 

of course. also 'nostalgia';their careers overlapped, does he think arguello was a pre-war fighter :rofl also, his username does hint at a wee bit of bias. wouldn't be surprised if it was a back-up alias

 

Zoom Zoom sloppy!!!! Now ive heard it all. Anybody who cannot realise that Azumah nelson was from the very top drawer technically as once stated by Julio Caesar Cahves, i'm sorry will only ever apprecite boxing in the same way you appreciate candy floss at the cicurs.... very nice but ultimately sweetness and fluff!!! (now that was deep right!!!) :happy

 

Not quite as superficial as you boyo! Yes of course its clear i think Arguello was pre war.... great biting wit there! Still must have left you rolling on the floor, which some might classify as hearty exercise! As for the alias... once agin you got me there. Just how do you do what you do... with this Bond like ability to uncover mysteries.
Yes Azumah i love... but if you bother reading I have at least alluded to one who had his number, and surpprise surprise there are a couple more!
Hagler actually my all time favourite!
Still on the substance, break a life times habit... dont rely on the caption world of boxing... do some real work and delve into the real pool of boxing knowledege ( Technical, tactical, historical)
Now how does patronised feel! for size!

 

That logic works both ways. Most fighters that put themselves into position to hit Arguello usually either took a lot of punishment in return, or wore themselves out trying to avoid Arguello's return fire at the same time.

What exactly is Nelson's gameplan in this? Is he going to box from the outside? Is he going to look to work his way in and work him over on the inside?

Nelson had a lot of trouble adjust-ing to Martinez's and Ruelas' reach, and arguably should've lost to one or maybe even both of them. He also had all he could handle matching the sheer strength and pace of fighters like Suarez and LaPorte. What makes you think Arguello would be so much easier for him than these other fighters? What did they do that Arguello didn't?

 

no point tryin to reason with these guys methinks, apparently we aren't looking at the bigger picture. azumah says he has a list of fighters that may have beaten him h2h, i'd be intrigued to see who they are and a)why he thinks they would/could have beaten nelson and b)why nelson couldn't overcome them. seriously, i'm sounding like a nelson hater, and nothing could be further than the truth, but the one-sided beatdown these two have predicted just makes me wonder.

 

How is AA a one trick Pony? in the sense that he's a classic Stand up boxer puncher.

Wouldn't the following also fall into that category Monzon, Hagler, Holmes, Hopkins etc. Would that be the case. yes they are all a bit different, but basically standup boxer punchers Hagler was a but different than the other three, But still

 

Beats me. I thought he put on a superb show of boxing/counterpunching in the first Escalera fight. Not many jr. lightweights would've beaten him on that night.

 

I like both fighters, but I think Arguello takes it by TKO or KO in 13/14 rounds.

If I have to predict the end I would say that it would be something like the fight between Arguello and Escalera II.

Nelson would have taken a lot of punishment during the first 10 rounds, specially from round 5 to 10. He would have tried to corner Arguello and keep himself busy to make Arguello fight while going backwards.

Arguello would try to stay in the center of the ring and from that spot make his fight, push Nelson against the ropes and deliver his punches.

The problem for Nelson in this fight (as it was for Escalera) is that Arguello could bang and trade, and I think he would connect Nelson with great right hands.

In other words Nelson's style suites Arguello.

 

Nelson never went up to fight at 140 pounds as far as I am aware. What relevance does that have to Nelson versus Arguello at 130 pounds.

 

Cannot believe that you are using Escalera of all the people as a comparison for the unique Azumah Nelson.

 

Can i just ask for those fixated with the size differential.... what was the differentila between a practically novice Azumah against ATG Sanchez ( a far morre consunmate boxer in every way shape and form to Arguello). how did a novice Azumah cope, and how would the classical Azumah of years to come fare?
And for those who keep on saying that Azumah's style suits Arguello... well which style. As i said i can clearly vivion at least 3 Nelson's stylistically!