Arguello

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by WhataRock, Feb 3, 2009.


  1. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lets say Alexis skipped 140 and went straight to welterwhilst he was still near his peak in the late 70's..early 80's.

    How would he hold the weight? I could see him going up alright actually..He wasnt exactly a natural featherweight, he grew into the lightweight frame very nicely.

    Guys like Hearns and Leonard I dont think are worth discussing because the results seems pretty obvious to me..But if you have an arguement for those fights even being close Id love to hear it.

    But how would he fair against some of the others guys around at the time...Palomino? McCrory? Cuevas?

    Guys like Benitez and Duran I would lump in with Hearns & Ray..I think Alexis might have a better shot against them but not by much..certainly not as much as against the others names I mentioned. I also think Curry is another bridge so far that its not even worth mentioning, plus he came around a little bit later. As late as Milton did I suppose but obviously a much better fighter.

    How would you see him going in this era?
     
  2. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    i dont think hes that effctive at welter

    he nevr seemed to put on mass and always seemed to be frail and skinny and his height wouldnt mean much.

    still saying that he was some fighter but i dont see him beating an of the big 4 but he might have a good chance against mcrory, cuevas and palomino
     
  3. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Leonard's team were in talks with Arguello's people about a possible fight taking place in 1982. Thats confirmed from an interview I have on video with Leonard in his hotel right after the Finch fight.
     
  4. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    Hmm..I think Duran would give him a lot of trouble as well.
     
  5. Jear

    Jear Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Arguello should never be a welter. 140 at the absolute tops for him. His advantages diminish too much to be a real force. His power becomes less effective against bigger men, while never lightening quick his speed and accuracy diminish with the extra weight also. The advantage in height and reach he enjoyed at the lower weights is also negated against bigger men
     
  6. leverage

    leverage Active Member Full Member

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    At welterweight arquello would be little more than an average fighter, perhaps beating a few decent fighters but losing badly to the divisions elite. There would be no coming from behind to win because his punches wouldn't have the same effect at that weight, not to mention that he would be even slower than he was at junior welter.

    Simply put, he would be out of his league.
     
  7. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Arguello's footwork and reflexes were slowed down at 140, and even at 135 IMO. At 140 the power was still there (as he showed against Rooney) but he looked like he was fighting while stuck in the mud. He could never have carried on to 147.
     
  8. MrMarvel

    MrMarvel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Arguello couldn't deal with the boxing skill of a Leonard or Duran. Even at featherweight or lightweight he would have been in trouble against fighters with that level of boxing skill. He would have trouble catching Leonard and trouble catching Duran cleanly. I think Benitez cleanly outboxes Arguello, too. Does Arguello have a puncher's chance? Sure. You can't rule that out. He could really hit. Could he really hit at welterweight? That's harder to say. He nailed Pryor and Pryor kept coming.
     
  9. leverage

    leverage Active Member Full Member

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    in arguellos defence, pryor was able to takes those bombs because he was probably coked up.
     
  10. markedwardscott

    markedwardscott Active Member Full Member

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    He wouldn't have been great at welter.
     
  11. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Arguello peaked at 130. He was still great at 135, and very, very good at 140. 147 is a bridge to far.
     
  12. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Cuevas wants to end it quick, he would.

    A Duran vs Arquello at 135 was the fight people wanted to see.
     
  13. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They would beat him, even give Bobby Joe Young, and Donald Curry a chance to beat Alexis.
     
  14. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. I think this pretty much sums it up.