Arise Sir Joe! Calzaghe vs Hopkins the Final Word.

Yeah man, I watched the fight at a friends I believe he has a recording courtesty of Sky Plus ill need to have a good watch of it again and be wary of trying to give rounds to my man.

Whats annoying me is the combination of Calzaghe haters attacking him, revisionists going back on their pre-fight opinions and spinsters now having a going at Hopkins record and resume. Why can't these ****ers come and go a bit and try to learn something from others? Ludicrous.

I don't want the Jones fight either. Ill go along to it as I feel it will be Joes last fight, but I would much rather Pavlik for legacy reasons.

Lennox should have a knighthood of course! The fact that they were considering Beckham before him made me physically sick. It should happen asap. Top 10 ATG heavy in my book.

 

No man.

Whilst I agree Dawson is the better fighter ask yourself will Joe get the credit he deserves if he beats Dawson right now? A guy whose best wins are against Adamek and controversially over Johnson?

No. Look at Lacy, look at the revisionism. Such beasts cite the Sheika fight as evidence that Lacy was there to be had. How much you want to bet they say similar things about Dawson in regards to Johnson?

Pavlik on the other hand iced Taylor then beat him again. He also decimated Miranda whom many Americans seem to rate very highly. Rightly or wrongly, Joe would get more credit imo for winning this fight.

There are even certain posters who have shat on RJJ's win over Hopkins even in the context of what he has achieved: he was too green apparently.

I want JC to get universal credit. If he beats Pavlik, he has beaten either directly or indirectly every guy worth fighting from 160 to 175.

But I do know where you are coming from.

 

168, JC says hes comfortable going back down there and KP just fought at 166 so....I would say 168.

 

Yeah I know what your saying mate...and I suppose your never going to please everyone.

I should add that im perhaps being a little selfish as im actually quite a big fan of Pavlik also so its one I would love to see happen in Britain.

But your point about certain wins appreciating over time stands though it can be a dodgy way to build your legacy on!

Put it this way I don't think anyone would have qualms over a Dawson bout. To me Pavlik or Dawson would do nicely.

RJJ im not thrilled about.

 

I think thats a card that gets overplayed tbh ever since RJJ's collapse after going to heavy.

JC actually looked a little podgy I thought at 173, I don't think the 5 pounds would cause him too much distress at all too lose. Its not something that I believe would be a huge factor tbh.

 

Thats my argument but I can see where TFFP is coming from...

 

Yes.

No one wants to see Tarver even given milk duds amnesia when it comes to Hopkins 'im the man that beat the man' until you lost you idiot!

Woods is obviously gone. Dawson's stock dropped a little after his last fight. Erdei is off hiding in central or Eastern Europe somewhere. Bute is an unproven prospect, Taylor clean off two consecutive losses, Wright has also lost recently.

Its Pavlik for me when you assess everything. Dawson I would not be too fussed about.

RJJ is not one I want to see its as simple as that.