Ariza concoctions a cause for concern?

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  1. jamesieboi

    jamesieboi Member Full Member

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    Ariza concoctions a cause for concern?

    There has been Articles Written today claiming that alex ariza gives pacquiao secret concoctments with his food (see sources at bottom)

    So i wanted to see what you guys thought.


    The Accusations thrown without merit at the Wild Card Gym Have been malicious and so Far Unfounded So my highlighting it is not An intended Hit in the direction of Team Roach.

    I have Been following the careers of many fighters mentored by Freddy Roach and his team who have tremendous ability in bringing out the best in thier fighters.

    I recently went through some videos of Amir Khan from his Amateur Days and during his early pro days with camp Harrison. What i found interesting was his overall stature and how it developed between his 1st fight and the ko by breidis Prescott compared to the development from the Barerra Fight to the Malignaggi Fight. Now I understand that Men and athletes especially fill out as they get older and more mature especially between the ages of 20 onwards.What i noticed is that Khan seemed to be Holding a heavier structure in terms of his muscle mass etc. I also looked at Manny Pacquiao and how his body has developed over the course of his career both before and during his time with camp Roach.
    So what i wanted to Ask/Discuss are the following points

    • Why do people feel that pacquiaos physical development is/isn't due to ped or steroid abuse?
    • Has amir Khans Structure Bulked considerably and is/isn't it just him growing into new weight? if yes then why is it not the same for manny?
    • Do you feel alex ariza has something to hide?
    • Do boxers & Athletes Trust blindly when it comes to nutrition,conditioning and training?
    • Is having a good team that can work on all areas of your body able to improve physical attributes without chemical intervention?
    • Cant a good strength and conditioning coach provide ways of enhancing an athlete physically without using steroids or peds?if yes to what extent if no why?

    What Are your Thoughts Let Me Know. feel free to expand on the discission,

    Sources
    http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/298226?tp=1

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/475603-alex-arizas-secret-concoction-for-pacquiao-sparks-media-firestorm-in-sports

     
  2. VecArrow

    VecArrow Custom User Title Full Member

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  3. ariza went to school. I believed at san diego state and get some help from UCLA's

    nutritionist. while other's conditioners are just plain "conditioners". they got their

    knowledge from the street, fathers, trial and experiment etc etc.

    he has to apply what he learned.


    just like in esb. most doesnt have a college degree. moreso, they didn't take physiology,

    organic chemistry or endocrinology. and suddenly they know how steroids work just by

    googling it. LOL
     
  4. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    link don't work,.....was the article written by Zeferino Jackson?
     
  5. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    bleacherreport is full of ****, lol. The only storm is in that writers pants.

    Oh btw, another alt account? Cmon people.
     
  6. jamesieboi

    jamesieboi Member Full Member

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    The link to the article was from usa today but in general i was asking several questions trying to open disscussion on why people find it hard to believe pac man cant be naturally big etc.
     
  7. VecArrow

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  8. jamesieboi

    jamesieboi Member Full Member

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    lol no your a ****** i sourced information from the link i provided and decided to post a thread. therefore i quoted sources and ask what people thought.

    you really are thick spend less time masturbating and more time thinking.:rofl
     
  9. VecArrow

    VecArrow Custom User Title Full Member

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    As of now, you posted 2 sources, both of which Leo Reyes wrote.
    He must have some good inside sources since no one else has found out about it.
    Even though it has started a media storm.
     
  10. jamesieboi

    jamesieboi Member Full Member

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    I know SO why is it that people/other boxers feel that pacquiao must be cheating? I pointed to Amir Khans Increased Body mass as another example so why cant it just be down to good nutrition/strength and conditioning or whatever?
     
  11. jamesieboi

    jamesieboi Member Full Member

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    You really are a troll aren't you? I read an article pointed to the article and provided another outlet. Thats how stories are used in journalism every day, You know like how news is circulated from one source then spread via different outlets? then someone like me decides to post and attempt to disscuss but a shithead like you wouldnt know that your too busy being a ****.

    anyway feel free to troll btw nice pic was that you? smell the finger....
     
  12. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If we can send people to space we can find ways for people to bulk up without using drugs. it is a simple formula - Hard work by the fighter and knowledge by the conditioning coach. All the fighters out there can do it but how many times do you hear a certain guy couldn't focus 100% in training or there were distractions ? Manny and Khan obviously love to train and have no problem listening and doing the work that it takes. It is that simple.
     

  13. ignorance and butt pain.