Ariza: The Other Reason for PacMan's success.

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  1. Chris85

    Chris85 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The school where they teach you that "muscle turn into fat" :lol:
     
  2. Janjhalani

    Janjhalani Boxing Terrorist Full Member

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    I guess some people believes the preaching of a crackhead and try to be a know it all on drugs.
    Life must be sux being a ***** nowadays, they have to grab anything they can.
    They just cant accept hard work and determination.
     
  3. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You wanna come with a valid debate or argument instead of just post ***** and crackhead a bunch of times? Other people have stated why they believe what they believe? Why do you believe what you believe?
     
  4. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol: Very ignorant post. :patsch Sounds like you don't know much about sport conditioning or nutrition, but that doesn't stop you from commenting.

    HGH is hard to test for anyway, and even if Pac agreed to a blood test, it wouldn't necessarily prove that he taking it.
     
  5. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Agreed. The metabolic rate rises when you take in good calories and your body becomes a furnace, even when you're sleeping. When I was in bodybuilding, I was stuffing my face with steak, chicken, fish and vegetables and was still at my leanest because my body was burning hot from processing all those calories of good food.

    Michael Phelps takes in 8000-10000 calories and still looks lean because of his workout routine and his heightened metabolic rate.
     
  6. Zaryu

    Zaryu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That artcile was the best I've read in a while, thanks for sharing.
     
  7. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Now just for Ariza to open up that medicine cabinet...
     
  8. johnnydrama

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    His stamina is off the charts...but so are plenty of other fighters at this level. Marg is anther one who can throw 100 plus punches a round.....Paul williams....Juan Diaz even Ali Funeka. Are they all on EPO's b/c they have better stamina than most? or b/c Zab, Floyd and Manny are faster than most are they on PEDs or roids? It's all just excuses to discredit PAC simply b/c he's the top dog in the sport. Comes witht he territory.
     
  9. PH|LLA

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    All the info I've read says that blood tests are just used for preliminary screening of EPO, but that the test that actually confirms EPO usage is a **** test. Check the World Anti-Doping Agency website.
     
  10. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You Pac fans are in complete denial. If this was true, why in the hell does the Olympics use the WADA style testing?

    It is funny to see you cats completely suspend your common sense to protect Manny's cheating butt. :lol:
     
  11. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah right! :lol: What other boxer puncher that relied on speed and punch volume got faster, stronger, and had greater stamina when he was OLDER and had more fights? :huh:lol:

    Marg doesn't have pop. Williams doesn't have pop. Zab and Mayweather though both fast put quality over quantity. On top of that both ZJ and FMJ have slowed down CONSIDERABLY as they have aged.

    Keep playing dumb while Manny keeps pulling the wool over yoru eyes. :lol:
     
  12. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. He's getting older going up in weight throwing more punches that are harder with almost the same speed.... Add on him now being able to take busted ear drums and whatnot in fights but being dropped by smaller men earlier who I doubt hit as hard as Cotto P4P. Not saying it's impossible but the way they reacted when the random tests were asked for made them look highly questionable.

    I stand corrected WADA have one case of detecting the new Mircera via urine testing, but it is a combination of blood and urine as you stated. The blood tests are kept to check for trends or abnormalities because what they check for in urine to detect Mircera is so small it's almost impossible to detect. HGH and Blood Doping are the ones only detected in blood testing.

    So if they were to use WADA's full random testing methods as initially requested I don't think anyone should have an issue!
     
  13. twofear

    twofear Well-Known Member Full Member

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    because **** test is hell expensive compared to blood test numb nuts.
     
  14. PH|LLA

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    In complete denial?

    I will school you once, and then just STFU. I don't want an answer out of your dumb ass.

    http://www.wada-ama.org/rtecontent/document/EPO_QA.pdf

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    The detection method for EPO is valid and reliable."

    http://www.wada-ama.org/en/Science-Medicine/Science-topics/Q-A-EPO/

    "In June 2003,
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    This report, requested by WADA’s stakeholders and commissioned by the Agency to evaluate the validity of urinary and blood tests for detecting the presence of recombinant EPO,
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  15. PH|LLA

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    this is the problem with these Pac-haters, they just wanna tear down his legacy by any means necessary.