Ariza: The Other Reason for PacMan's success.

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  1. Ringnut

    Ringnut Boxing Addict Full Member

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    which is strange if said Pac hater is a Floyd fan, because it diminishes what could potentially be Floyd's biggest career win.

    Anyway, thanks for those links, it's good to read some credible info being used in the debate.
     
  2. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You do know that both drugs and technology advance? The things to look for when detecting EPO and the drugs themselves detected in 2003 are not the same as those in 2010. I agree that WADA seems to be up on it, but citing that they put tests in place in 2000 and a report in 2003 states it's valid and reliable means nothing 10 years later.
     
  3. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    This has been posted many times before. Bald_cunt won't respond to it.
     
  4. PH|LLA

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    The first document I quoted from was written in 2005, not 2000. It just says that the test was introduced in 2000.

    And in 2010, this is still the info that is up on their website. You do the math. The article I quoted isn't dated from 2003, it simply references a report from 2003. There's a difference.

    I know you will stop at no lengths to make it seem like Pac is on drugs, but its really pathetic.
     
  5. Janjhalani

    Janjhalani Boxing Terrorist Full Member

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    And *****s keep singing the same song over and over again without the lyrics.
     
  6. twofear

    twofear Well-Known Member Full Member

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    they rather believe on the crack heads then the proper authorities :huh
     
  7. lobk

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    But your the expert and not Wada...... so why even have the test since, according to you, its no longer valid. The citing was taken directly from the CURRENT wada site.

    Test can only be used to detect what is known. Until someone can show the world something new, all they can go by is what they know and how to test for that known substance.
     
  8. Janjhalani

    Janjhalani Boxing Terrorist Full Member

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    There is no test for A-side meth, it was given by aliens from another world to Pac. It makes bullets bounces off Philippines soldiers. Since the Philippines only has a limite supply, the government gave it all to Pac, so they could just generate more money on betting.
     
  9. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Okay it was not written 10 years ago, exaggeration. What stood 5 years ago doesn't stand now either.

    Do you think if a new PED comes out tomorrow WADA is going to update their website and say "This drug (insert name) came out and although we cannot detect it we will inform you when we can."? I hope to God you don't. And if you don't I hope you now understand what I'm trying to get at. Did they say when they updated testing to detect Mircera? No. Yet Mircera became available in 2007. That little bit of information posted is a simple catch-all for those who want to accept a simple "yes" for their answer. What stood in 2005 doesn't stand in 2010. Hell what stood in 2009 probably doesn't. What you posted doesn't mean they can catch these new forms of EPO. I'm not saying they can't because I believe they are on top of it. But that report doesn't cover today.
     
  10. PH|LLA

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    There's also an Amir Khan interview where he says that during the olympics they took urine samples any time during training, but blood samples only after the fights.

    3:10 into this interview

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  11. PH|LLA

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    What you wrote basically shows that Pac is not on PEDs.

    Because if like you said WADA are on top of it but are not releasing the information, then for all Pac knows he would get caught on EPO as well as every other drug simply through urine testing, which he fully accepted. If he was cheating, he would have no way of knowing for sure that he won't get caught with Urine, becuase like you said WADA could be on top of it and not releasing the information.
     
  12. Janjhalani

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    According to your pastor Roger Mayweather, A-side meth was already used by Philippines since spaniards colonization. And you say this fictional EPO or HGH or PED Pacquiao fictionally uses isnt known yet to the authorities.
    Ariza must be a good chemist. Maybe we could ask him to make cures for cancer and aids.
     
  13. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wikipedia states:
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    after reports that a urine sample tested positive for Mircera. A urine test caught that too.
     
  14. GOW7

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    does WADA test Many his last 5 fights?
     
  15. Ringnut

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    did WADA test any pro fighter's last 5 fights?