Ariza: The Other Reason for PacMan's success.

Youre stupid ass has repeated over and over again that if it wasn't for the cut Manny recieved Manny would of clearly won over EM. Youre clearly a Pacquiao dickrider who gives Manny all the benefit of the doubt. Youre here trying to convince me that any suspicion of Manny doping is just pure ludacris. I'm not as blind with denial as your sorry ass. The blood taken from Manny has just been medical tests. His "scheduled" **** tests that you think is solid evidence can easily be cheated. Your favorite trainer Freddie has well admitted that he has had two fighters he knew were using PED's. And what good would a post fight test be if EPO and HGH are undetectable after a 24 to 48 hour period? Stop with your cum blind bull****. Manny better stay his ass out of Vegas because now they'll have his off the chart red blood cell count blood on file now. The NSAC is finally after all this time stepping their game up. No more water **** tests as the only way to find out if someone is doping. Plus Travis Tygart from the USDA is close to a blood test that can detect HGH within 21 days of use. Manny will go back to his ordinary ways if he doesn't retire soon.

 

We don't know if Floyd is doping....we don't know if Marg, Or Paul Williams are either. Hell....we don't even know if Phelps or Armstrong are doping either. Just b/c they pass a test doesn't mean they are clean. Athletes who have the means to beat dope tests do it everyday. Manny agreed to Floyd's tests knowing that the allegations he created wouldn't prove that he's innocent, but knew it would put Floyd out there for everyone to see that he never really wanted to take the risk in facing him.

Just b/c a fighter who THROUGHOUT his career had been known for his stamina and speed, keeps up his stamina and speed while moving up doesn't mean they are doping. If that's the case then Ray leonard, Duran and Mayweather are all cheats. singiling out one particular fighter based on rumors or accusations created by their opponent should tell you a lot. It does for most...especailly when all the demands are met and they decide to go on vacation....lose the "URGE" and then says they are getting hitched.

 

I'll just tear this post to shreads like I have your previous one, and then you'll come back with more stupid ****.

You said I thought Pac beat Morales clearly in the first fight. I never said that. Now you're changing your tune, but still saying bull****. You're a ****ing liar. I said that if the first Morales fight was not Pac's first fight ever at 130lbs, and that he hadn't been cut right above the eye by an accidental headbutt in the fifth round, he might have won, considering that he only lost by 2 points on all cards. I never said that Pac beat Morales clearly in the first fight. Never. Morales beat Pacquiao, clearly. You should stop lying.

Pacquiao has agreed to tests that go far beyond what 99.99% of the other boxers on the planet are asked to undergo. Random urine tests all the way through training camp, random blood tests throughout training camp up to 14 days before the fight and another blood and urine test after the fight. That's maybe 1000 times more strict than the currect NSAC drug testing protocol, and PAC AGREED TO IT. In fact, it's even more strict than olympic testing, since like Khan said, at the Olympics they don't do blood tests during training before the fight.

What good would a post fight test be if EPO and hGH are undetectable after 48 hours? We were talking about BLOOD DOPING moron. Hematocrit levels. EPO is detectable in URINE. And hGH is something that people cycle OVER SEVERAL WEEKS AND MONTHS therefore who gives a **** if there's a 14 day cut off date, it makes no difference. If Pac's hematocrit levels are above normal DURING THE FIGHT, then the POST FIGHT BLOOD TEST will catch him.

Once again, you're an idiot. Now you can once again reply with more lies and idiocies, but this time, I won't spend my time answering you.

 

He will.

 

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/jun/10/drug-testing-methods-nevada-athletic-commission-ra/

I love how you try to talk like you know something. Youre exact words are "HGH IS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE CYCLE OVER SEVERAL WEEKS AND MONTHS THEREFORE WHO GIVES A **** IF THERES A 14 DAY CUT OFF DATE,IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE.....THE POST FIGHT BLOOD TEST WILL CATCH HIM".

Heres what a real expert has to say on that nice little opinion you have there that a 14 day cuttoff that Manny for some reason gave a **** about makes no difference.

Human growth hormone only remains in the blood for 24 to 48 hours, making the uncertainty of when a test will be conducted a valuable resource in preventing its use, Tygart said.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/jun/10/drug-testing-methods-nevada-athletic-commission-ra/

Go bask in the safety of being a fad follower of Manny dick sucking. Cause thats exactly what you are. If Manny was cycling HGH then stopped a week before the fight he wouldn't get caught. Travis Tygart admits there isn't a blood test that exists yet to detect such a fairytale youre stating. But at the end of the article which was written in June2010 he says the USDA is 4 months from developing a test that can detect HGH from 21 days of use which would definetely give Manny a good reason for not accepting a 14 day cut off the first go negotiating with Floyd. You can go continue to worship Manny's dick now. I'm done with your lame making **** up ass.

 

No you ****ing dumb ass the post fight blood test will catch him if he's blood doping during the fight.

If he's using HGH, he'll have to be on it for alot more than 14 days if he's going to benefit from it. Therefore one of the random blood tests during training will catch him.

And if he's using EPO, the urine test will catch him.

idiot.

 

if he aint using just take the test

they said Manny thought the whole thing was funny from the beginning and that they would take whatever test they want....now look where we are at

dont sound like someone is to sure over their in Pac's corner

 

Sounds like someone who won't bend over to play by his opponent's rules.

 

Oh so your being vague now calling it "blood doping" now changing your words from "HGH" and and also changing your statement from "the post fight drug test will catch him" to now "one of the random blood tests during training will catch him". You just changed your whole argument up now. Are you done yet? You just got raped pal. I brought up a real experts word and debunked your opinion and so you change **** up. Youre a ****ing clown. Don't try to appear knowledgeable again because quite frankly you don't know what the **** youre talking about. Yoyu better go re-edit your sorry ass post. :rasta

 

but he says its fine now....so he still bent over...i dont get it

 

Oh please someone stop the stupidity... The thread was great but it went downhill after some trying hard doctors and lawyers came in.

 

But yet he wants people to bend over and play by his.:deal Catch weight fights for titles and 10 million dollar over the weight limit fines.:deal

 

Another Manny dick sucking statement. I wish Floyd fans could use that one. "Floyd just didn't give into Bob's demands and Bob's deadline". What a ****ing cop out. You're really getting exposed as the dick sucker you truly are philla. It's not rocket science to what your doing giving Manny all the benefit of the doubt. Its clear fact Manny skipped out the first outing. The 2nd well we have Manny's word that so many treat as the word,gospel and truth. Bob to this day has not gave specifics on what he proposed to Ross Greenberg from HBO. Not Oscar or Haymon. Bob atleast admitted that much during the conference call when Floyd didn't "bend over" to Bob's deadline.:hat

 

Um... I'm not sure if you're agreeing with me or saying I'm wrong or what... You corrected my use of the word scientifically... Then talked a bunch about Mircera and EPO testing.. I already stated that WADA worked with the developer of Mircera and that's why they detected Ricco on it. But I'm sure that it was very useful information to most of these other people!

 

Understandable, but it's kinda hard to have proof ya know? Someone already stated that it's very hard to catch these athletes abusing PEDS and most are caught because they are linked to someone who eventually tells. Almost everyone can agree he's doing something extraordinary, I don't understand why it's so horrible for people to want WADA testing. As GOW7 mentioned other athletes that do amazing things are WADA tested so we have less reason to question them. We can't positively say he's clean or not, but WADA testing would clear up a lot of things in most peoples eyes. If his fans feel he's clean they should want him to test and get this all behind him. I don't understand why it's all this resistance to him taking WADA testing. Is it because Mayweather asked for it and not the comission? Hope not, because that shouldn't determine if a professional athlete breaking records goes through WADA drug testing. You all really can't despise another man that much.